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Dragonshadow 04-15-2003 02:11 PM

I take it this means that we hate kobolds?

I wish my name was Baggins 04-16-2003 01:53 PM

See it is this kind of bigotted attitude that I have been trying to put a stop to for all of this time...I swear, if you people used your heads half as much as your sword arms the Sword coast would be a better place for al of those who inhabit it. After all, let us think of alternate jobs for all supposedly "evil" critters of the sword coast...Xvarts could be cattle ranchers, Winter Wolves could cool our homes in the warm months, Orgillions could use their immense strength to power mills forever freeing us from dependence on the wind or water to grind our grain. Sirens use their call during trade negotiations with foriegn powers guarenteeing that things are in our favor...These are all noble pursuits that should have been implemented years ago but NO....WHY???? because every hothead with a sword has been chopping these creatures up with such abandon that it is no wonder that they hate humans and attack us on site...Can we not try to make peace with our neighbors and see how in that peace we may benefit each other?

Firestormalpha 04-16-2003 09:31 PM

Baggins, even an evil person is convinced their ideals are noble. Only good person is correct in this opinion for even 50% of the time. And only a wise person can see that nobility is an illusion we create in order further the ultimate illusion of civilization.

Dragonshadow 04-17-2003 01:19 PM

Mr. Baggins, Firestormalpha is right.
And I object to you calling winter wolves "evil". They are lovable critters who never hurt anyone.
I should know, i have one.

Keraptisdm 04-17-2003 01:53 PM

Hear hear, Mr. Baggins. And welcome back from your 'adventure'. Again we are united in our fight against the bigotry displayed by every sword for hire along the coast. I am surprised by Mr. Dragonshadow's positon, as every knight in shining armor wants to kill a dragon. He, of all, should understand the need for the various races to exist peacefully together, and thereby reaping the benefits of such an arrangement. If the Senate declared that all dragons be exterminted, would he not take offense?

And Mr. Baggins, when you started that thread, I never imagined that it would be so popular either. I don't think it ever went more than five places from the top. Some fine debates were written in that thread.

Myrddin L'argenton 04-18-2003 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by I wish my name was Baggins:
See it is this kind of bigotted attitude that I have been trying to put a stop to for all of this time...I swear, if you people used your heads half as much as your sword arms the Sword coast would be a better place for al of those who inhabit it. After all, let us think of alternate jobs for all supposedly "evil" critters of the sword coast...Xvarts could be cattle ranchers, Winter Wolves could cool our homes in the warm months, Orgillions could use their immense strength to power mills forever freeing us from dependence on the wind or water to grind our grain. Sirens use their call during trade negotiations with foriegn powers guarenteeing that things are in our favor...These are all noble pursuits that should have been implemented years ago but NO....WHY???? because every hothead with a sword has been chopping these creatures up with such abandon that it is no wonder that they hate humans and attack us on site...Can we not try to make peace with our neighbors and see how in that peace we may benefit each other?
I have an objection to make. It's fine saying we, the adventurers kill these beasts and monsters but isn't this because they have attacked us. May I remind you of the halfing messenger that was attacked by 2 Ogrillions outside Beregost not too mention what happens to cattle that are cared for by Xvarts.

Firestormalpha 04-18-2003 08:14 AM

Indeed Myrddin L'argenton is correct. I have not once attacked a sleeping kobold. In fact, they have attack my party myriad times even as we attempted to acheive but a simple nights rest. All they need to do to keep me from killing them is not attack me. Not one kobold, save dear young Larry, has been capable of that. And evil though he was, I allowed him and his brethren to live. While he was true to the illusion of civilization, I suspect some mage may have maliciously turned three children into those forms. But the fact of the matter is I have never attacked a kobold who hasn't attacked me first. And all but one of the kobolds I have encountered did not attack me on sight.

Rimjaw 04-18-2003 08:56 AM

This has got to be one of the most hilarious threads I've read. :D

Dragonshadow 04-20-2003 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by Keraptisdm:
I am surprised by Mr. Dragonshadow's positon, as every knight in shining armor wants to kill a dragon.
Again, I must tell you, sir: I AM NOT A GUY! Please could you remember this, Sir. Thankyou.
And not every knight wants to kill a dragon. Erm, Dragonheart films, for example.
I think in them, he helped the dragon. And various books that I have read over the years. And no, I would not take offence if the senete said that dragons were to be destroyed. After all, you cannot kill us all, and I would not run around, kneeling by dead bodies and cutting my hand apart. I would at least burry the bodies first!
Also, we Bronze dragons are not ususally the evil kind. Leave that to the Blues!
And the kobolds attacked me first, so it was their fault that I hate them. They tried to burn me, and I was simply defending myself in the only way that I could: by killing them.
I hope I have made my point on three things:
Why I attack Kobolds,
Not-everyone-hates-dragon,
And my gender.
Thankyou for listening.
Yours,
Dragonshadow

Myrddin L'argenton 04-25-2003 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rimjaw:
This has got to be one of the most hilarious threads I've read. :D
Quiet wait to the end to make comments.


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