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Ah, I love to see anti-gun nuts try to interpret gun ownership out of the constitution. HA! You do realize that doing so is historical revisionism. Since a gun was a common household item, a useful TOOL, kept in almost every home during the time period, your interpretation could not have been what ANYONE was thinking. But, whatever. You keep thinking what you think, and I'll keep pointing and laughing at you.
Generally, though, thank goodness we are finally moving to a society where all of these decisions are dictated by statute. I'm so irritated with having to *think,* I'll be very happy to let my government do it for me. And, who can trust other people to think? Nope -- that's a job for the government. |
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Also see http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs2/hosb502.pdf </font>[/QUOTE]<font color = lightgreen>I do not need to have "evidence" to back up my opinion. [img]graemlins/petard.gif[/img] Bans on guns (or certain gun types) do nothing to deter crime rates because the criminals don't care about laws banning guns. Bans have an effect only on law-abiding citizens, who then wind up being defenseless in the face of gun-wielding criminals...or jack-booted governmental thugs. Decades of martial arts movies to the contrary, not even the most highly-trained artist would try to take on a punk with a pistol. In a face-to-face confrontation, the gun almost always wins. Therefore, argue relative crime rates until you are blue in the face; I am a mathematician, so I know how statistics are meaningless because almost everyone misuses them. Argue about how allowing gun ownership makes a society violent, even though there have been plenty of "violent" societies that have existed without guns. Argue about how "my side" is better than "your side". Whatever. :rolleyes: My opinion will remain the same: a fully-armed society in which anyone may own a gun (with a license) is a safer (or at least more polite) society. Why? Because some criminals won't pounce upon a person who just might be packing heat.</font> |
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I mean, any psycho can get a gun and wander about the street? Safe, real safe... Our police don't even carry guns, unless for a specific purpose, i.e. armed response or guarding a potential terrorist target. If they feel happy without one, so do I. I have never felt a gun would make me feel more safe. [ 05-31-2005, 03:41 PM: Message edited by: Aragorn1 ] |
What about the causality though? If a burglar expects that the house he's about to burgle might have a gun inside, he will make sure he's armed appropriately. Whereas the victim might have got away with a knock on the head before, now they might end up dead.
It seems to me that legalisation of this sort amounts to escalation, and is therefore not much different than the arms races we see on a global scale. |
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I mean, any psycho can get a gun and wander about the street? Safe, real safe... Our police don't even carry guns, unless for a specific purpose, i.e. armed response or guarding a potential terrorist target. If they feel happy without one, so do I. I have never felt a gun would make me feel more safe. </font>[/QUOTE]That depends largely on local ordinances. In rural communities it's common to see people with gunracks in their pickups loaded with shotguns, rifles, etc. For handguns a simple concealed weapon permit makes it fully legal for the area covered by the permit (as long as the gun is also registered and legal). {edit} background investigations are of course required for concealed weapons permits, as well as training classes in most areas. There are things that can expedite the process like military service. [ 05-31-2005, 04:29 PM: Message edited by: Morgeruat ] |
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Checks all 6 cylinders, good to go! Checks the law, good to go! |
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