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Felix The Assassin 02-05-2009 09:37 PM

Obama; hurdler or stumbler?
 
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Originally Posted by snipped
The second troika member was current Attorney General Eric Holder, who had met Obama at a dinner party and offered his services. Holder was a wealthy, well-connected D.C. lawyer who had been embarrassed in President Bill Clinton's closing days by facilitating as Deputy Attorney General his pardons of fugitive financier Marc Rich, several terrorists, drug traffickers, and politically connected types. (Holder, in recent confirmation hearings, conceded he had made a "mistake" in facilitating the pardons but did not explain why he did not oppose them).

http://crosscut.com/2009/02/05/polit...ernment/18836/

SpiritWarrior 02-09-2009 02:31 AM

Re: Obama; hurdler or stumbler?
 
Great, giant, hulk-like hurdler. Don't pay attention to that biased media, which we all insisted as per a convo. in the GC forum, was/is horribly biased (especially Fox).

Felix The Assassin 02-11-2009 09:50 PM

Re: Obama; hurdler or stumbler?
 
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Originally Posted by SpiritWarrior (Post 1226173)
Great, giant, hulk-like hurdler. Don't pay attention to that biased media, which we all insisted as per a convo. in the GC forum, was/is horribly biased (especially Fox).

If a left bashing media, says something of truth they are automatically categorized as Fox? Wow. You do realize Crosscut.com is Seattle based? Staffed by several prominent Seattle figure heads. As you should know, Seattle is probably one of, if not the most liberal cities in the PNW, and a top 5 for nationwide!

That's why I like using media other than your infused upon Fox, because it's not Fox, and they are calling it as they see it. Which by the way, is not as charming as the campaign!

Trust me on this, I will be here to ensure that his stumbles, (or crooked political partners for special projects) do not go unnoticed, and, if, and that is a big if, he is actually successful at something, that will get posted too. I wish him the best, really I do, but what I see now, is what I saw during the campaign, and that is not what you saw!

Illumina Drathiran'ar 02-11-2009 10:50 PM

Re: Obama; hurdler or stumbler?
 
I want to order a bumper sticker that says,


"Don't ask me...
I voted for Hillary!"

SpiritWarrior 02-11-2009 10:56 PM

Re: Obama; hurdler or stumbler?
 
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Originally Posted by Felix The Assassin (Post 1226324)
If a left bashing media, says something of truth they are automatically categorized as Fox? Wow. You do realize Crosscut.com is Seattle based? Staffed by several prominent Seattle figure heads. As you should know, Seattle is probably one of, if not the most liberal cities in the PNW, and a top 5 for nationwide!

That's why I like using media other than your infused upon Fox, because it's not Fox, and they are calling it as they see it. Which by the way, is not as charming as the campaign!

Trust me on this, I will be here to ensure that his stumbles, (or crooked political partners for special projects) do not go unnoticed, and, if, and that is a big if, he is actually successful at something, that will get posted too. I wish him the best, really I do, but what I see now, is what I saw during the campaign, and that is not what you saw!

It went right over you didn't it? :)

Felix The Assassin 02-12-2009 07:29 AM

Re: Obama; hurdler or stumbler?
 
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Originally Posted by SpiritWarrior (Post 1226331)
It went right over you didn't it? :)

At times it is hard to tell with you, due to the fact that on days with an "a" you promote Fox news into some of your postings. However, on days with a "y" you claim to be a leftist, and anything that opposes your personal view is biased media, regardless of it's true nature. Therefore, all of your biased balderdash is always countered with a leftist media group. And that is where your spin-doctor is currently lounging. :D

Albromor 02-12-2009 10:06 AM

Re: Obama; hurdler or stumbler?
 
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Originally Posted by SpiritWarrior (Post 1226173)
Great, giant, hulk-like hurdler. Don't pay attention to that biased media, which we all insisted as per a convo. in the GC forum, was/is horribly biased (especially Fox).

Have you looked at MSNBC lately? Especially Chris Matthews who has such a man crush of Obama he literally slobers every time he mentions his name. Its not just "especially Fox," its all of them.

The problem isn't so much Obama. It's his decision to surround himself with "leaders" who are the same old, same old. They offer nothing new. It just looks new because we haven't had it in a while.

If Obama becomes a stumbler its because of his cabinet choices.

SpiritWarrior 02-12-2009 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Felix The Assassin (Post 1226345)
At times it is hard to tell with you, due to the fact that on days with an "a" you promote Fox news into some of your postings. However, on days with a "y" you claim to be a leftist, and anything that opposes your personal view is biased media, regardless of it's true nature. Therefore, all of your biased balderdash is always countered with a leftist media group. And that is where your spin-doctor is currently lounging. :D

As it is with you, who claim to be the watchdog we don't need. :) Where were you during the last decade? Oh well, you can make up for lost time starting with Bush. So, in retrospect, document all his mistakes so we can assess your nuetrality and your self-proclaimed F-up monitor. This way, we can make a decision on your competence to protect us against Obama, who (bless him) has to clean up this crap. But fair is fair, start off with the last 8 years and explain to me why you didn't warn me about that evil abyss-dwelling GW for all this time. You dropped the ball on him in a big way, so how can I trust you aren't A) blind/ignorant or B) one of them or C) GW himself after finally learning what the internetz do.

Promoting Fox news? Lollerz.

SpiritWarrior 02-12-2009 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Albromor (Post 1226350)
Have you looked at MSNBC lately? Especially Chris Matthews who has such a man crush of Obama he literally slobers every time he mentions his name. Its not just "especially Fox," its all of them.

The problem isn't so much Obama. It's his decision to surround himself with "leaders" who are the same old, same old. They offer nothing new. It just looks new because we haven't had it in a while.

If Obama becomes a stumbler its because of his cabinet choices.

Agreed. I never once said MNBC is not biased. I said most of the media outlets were, as per a discussion we had here at IW. Fox is the worst, and bravest about it, topped with a dash of insanity and a tone of undrlying denial.

pritchke 02-12-2009 11:14 AM

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As far as I am concerned Obama has made himself the greatest president America has ever had when he went and gave that homeless woman a hug and kissed her on the cheek. It doesn't even matter now if he totally screws eveything up for America the fact is you know he cares about his people and there everyday normal lives.

Felix The Assassin 02-12-2009 05:12 PM

Re: Obama; hurdler or stumbler?
 
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Originally Posted by SpiritWarrior (Post 1226355)
As it is with you, who claim to be the watchdog we don't need. :) Where were you during the last decade? Oh well, you can make up for lost time starting with Bush. So, in retrospect, document all his mistakes so we can assess your nuetrality and your self-proclaimed F-up monitor. This way, we can make a decision on your competence to protect us against Obama, who (bless him) has to clean up this crap. But fair is fair, start off with the last 8 years and explain to me why you didn't warn me about that evil abyss-dwelling GW for all this time. You dropped the ball on him in a big way, so how can I trust you aren't A) blind/ignorant or B) one of them or C) GW himself after finally learning what the internetz do.

Promoting Fox news? Lollerz.

I have already afforded you that info.

In Recap:
The democrat in control Congress deregulated: The housing, The stock market, and The banking industry. Now the new guy is faced with fixing it, and boy is he ever going to fix it! Why he's got ball park 800 Billion on package "A", 2 Trillion on package "B", and can't wait to unveil package "C", which will effectively break the bank, and the nation with it!

Finalizing the last 8 years, we looked good until the Katrina FEMA incident.

Felix The Assassin 02-12-2009 05:14 PM

Re: Obama; hurdler or stumbler?
 
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Originally Posted by pritchke (Post 1226359)
As far as I am concerned Obama has made himself the greatest president America has ever had when he went and gave that homeless woman a hug and kissed her on the cheek. It doesn't even matter now if he totally screws eveything up for America the fact is you know he cares about his people and there everyday normal lives.

Many presidents have done the same in the name of a "photo-op"!

Now if he were to have moved that homeless woman into a small apartment with furnishings, paid the electric, gas and food bills from his salary, then he might have gotten some kudos!

SpiritWarrior 02-12-2009 05:18 PM

Re: Obama; hurdler or stumbler?
 
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Originally Posted by Felix The Assassin (Post 1226377)
I have already afforded you that info.

In Recap:
The democrat in control Congress deregulated: The housing, The stock market, and The banking industry. Now the new guy is faced with fixing it, and boy is he ever going to fix it! Why he's got ball park 800 Billion on package "A", 2 Trillion on package "B", and can't wait to unveil package "C", which will effectively break the bank, and the nation with it!

Finalizing the last 8 years, we looked good until the Katrina FEMA incident.

That was your criticism of Bush? Three static words and then three whole lines dedicated to how you don't like Obama's plan? I am giving you a big fat FAIL.

Felix The Assassin 02-12-2009 09:45 PM

Re: Obama; hurdler or stumbler?
 
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Originally Posted by SpiritWarrior (Post 1226379)
That was your criticism of Bush? Three static words and then three whole lines dedicated to how you don't like Obama's plan? I am giving you a big fat FAIL.

That's it, notta, nothing more.

Again, for the sake of the nation, I bid Obama good fortune, but with the crooks he has hand selected to surround himself with, and his own intentions, make for a combination to cause more failure than success.

pritchke 02-13-2009 10:35 AM

Re: Obama; hurdler or stumbler?
 
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Originally Posted by Felix The Assassin (Post 1226378)
Many presidents have done the same in the name of a "photo-op"!

Now if he were to have moved that homeless woman into a small apartment with furnishings, paid the electric, gas and food bills from his salary, then he might have gotten some kudos!

That's the sweet part. He put in a word for her with some housing committee in the area, and a senator who was there let her use his house in the area that he wasn't living in until she could get back on her feet.

I was trying to picture Bush in the same sitution and I could only see him say security take this person away and check her shoes. For Obama's visit to Canada in the next few days the RCMP and Ottawa police are on high alert but they don't expect to be any protest. Damn Bush makes a visit and we have to spead weeks cleaning up after the mass protest.

pritchke 02-13-2009 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Felix The Assassin (Post 1226396)
That's it, notta, nothing more.

Again, for the sake of the nation, I bid Obama good fortune, but with the crooks he has hand selected to surround himself with, and his own intentions, make for a combination to cause more failure than success.

This I don't understand as I would say they are lesser crooks than Bush and his cronies. I actually liked Bush as a person but found him too gullible to the crooks he surrounded himself with. Here is hoping Obama is not influenced by the peer pressure like the weak minded Bush.

Felix The Assassin 02-13-2009 07:05 PM

Re: Obama; hurdler or stumbler?
 
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Originally Posted by pritchke (Post 1226437)
This I don't understand as I would say they are lesser crooks than Bush and his cronies. I actually liked Bush as a person but found him too gullible to the crooks he surrounded himself with. Here is hoping Obama is not influenced by the peer pressure like the weak minded Bush.

I say with pure certainty, that these people were checked out by the bama-rama staff prior to being nominated. In my mind, these tax evaders, crooks, and whatnots, attempted to fix things on their own. But thankfully the media came along and blew the cover wrap clean off. What I cannot figure out is, if the pres is as smart of a person as you say, why would he go public with their nominations, all the while with the knowledge that these guys are crooks? That is amusing, really, did he think we wouldn't notice? The media wouldn't report anything negative about him or his cabinet? Some people are fully blinded by charisma, I however, was born with excellent vision, and my vision has not faltered, and can see through the bluff and fluff, and into the darkness beneath the surface.

SpiritWarrior 02-13-2009 09:18 PM

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And yet, you can't see that GW is the devil in a cowboy hat...

Felix The Assassin 02-13-2009 10:48 PM

Re: Obama; hurdler or stumbler?
 
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Originally Posted by SpiritWarrior (Post 1226467)
And yet, you can't see that GW is the devil in a cowboy hat...

A demon to his enemies for sure, a leader to many, a man without wit to a paltry few, and even the "Goofy Texan" to some of lesser ilk. But the devil? Far from it!

SpiritWarrior 02-13-2009 11:02 PM

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Devil's son?

Felix The Assassin 02-13-2009 11:37 PM

Re: Obama; hurdler or stumbler?
 
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Originally Posted by SpiritWarrior (Post 1226472)
Devil's son?

Nope, he's a Bush, not a clinton!

Felix The Assassin 02-14-2009 12:02 PM

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This is the work of the devil.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...uction-torture

SpiritWarrior 02-14-2009 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Felix The Assassin (Post 1226473)
Nope, he's a Bush, not a clinton!

Good point, this position requires basic literacy for soul-selling contracts.

Felix The Assassin 02-14-2009 07:25 PM

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Found this on the news wire, related to 'Blago'.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=6879286


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