Dumb Question

What is the practical use of the cloak of non-detection?

Thanks

you don't get detected :D

i think it (if yer invisible ie stelth whatever) it stops spells such as true sight form bustin ya ..but dont hold me to that i aint sure

Sorry but you comment was brilliant Sir ReGiN

only it doesn't work against true-sight.... sigh! another bug i had to correct myself...

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Skunk:
only it doesn't work against true-sight.... sigh! another bug i had to correct myself...<hr></blockquote>

the only reason non-detection exists is to counter spells like true sight and detect invisibility. never heard of a bug there. do you have an example of when it, ahem, didn't work? who was hiding and how, and what popped you out?

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Amergin:


the only reason non-detection exists is to counter spells like true sight and detect invisibility. never heard of a bug there. do you have an example of when it, ahem, didn't work? who was hiding and how, and what popped you out?<hr></blockquote>


Yoshimo hid in shadows and wearing the cloak of Detection approached Tarnor's mercenaries in the sewers. When he was in visible range, one of the mercenaries began casting True Sight. After finishing the spell they finished Yoshimo.

After reloading the savegame I tried again. Same result. I checked it, Yoshimo died hiding in shadows.

[ 11-07-2001: Message edited by: Ugaya ]</p>

The same my Jan [img]smile.gif[/img]

Same sort of scenarios as above.
Now, had they cast Dispel magic first, *then* it wouldn't be a bug - but they didn't and 'True sight' always removes the invisibility on the cloaks wearer...

So I altered the cloak's properties myself to give the limited protection that it's supposed to provide...

I Thought (not sure)
It only works on invisibily

It worked fine for me. I've given it to my theif, and they cant see him ever if he hides in the shadows and I've had true sight cast on him loads of times.

Well, I have the Cloak of Non-Detection on my Mage-types usually, taking advantage of its anti-detection capability.

True Sight has NEVER dispelled any invisibility for a wearer of the Cloak. The reason you may be having problems with Thief-types is that they must have Shadows to hide in. They have to check each round to remain in Shadows. The Cloak does nothing for a Thief in broad daylight.

Its also possible that if you set your thief to backstab, that he missed with a high initiative, which means he would pop into visibility and be targetable, same as if a mage cast a spell while invisible. The Cloak only protects from "hostile" detection attempts, any hostile action on behalf of the wearer (including failing a Hide in Shadows roll) negates stealth/invisibility.

Hope this helps!