Re: What to do with these pirates?
 

I am glad it's over, and have no qualms about how it ended. Unless the surviving pirate can't do anything to help find the head that Felix mentioned earlier... if that's the case, then one fewer shot was fired than needed to be.

Cruel and cold-hearted that may be... but when you decide to dance on that side of the law, you agree to the consequences.

Re: What to do with these pirates?
 

Eh??

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Indeed! We gotta remember that there are around 250 people still out there being kidnapped from various Countries. I sure hope they get rescued too!

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I think Felix was trying to say that if you're checking out boards like that, you're seeing a lot of how he thinks. Ergo, you know more about him than you might have expected.

As for the other hostages, I hope they get squared away soon. Unfortunately, I think a few more will have to die before enough countries get pissed enough to do some serious patrolling... or "encouraging" Somalia to get its act together.

I don't claim to know much of anything about nation-building, but I suspect that trying to rebuild someone else's country while leaving them in control is an exercise in futility. I think someone will need to take that country over (preferably with the world's blessing, for whatever that means) in order to make substantial changes happen.

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Yeah, just sucks that it takes an American ship and kidnapping for the news to cover it like they have... I guess it's 'normal', but are the other kidnapped folks getting the same media exposure in their respected Countries? I hope so.

The only way to end this crap is park ships every few 100 miles around there.. or go after the pirates, and take them out/capture them. Somalia is just a Country in chaos.

Here's a good site with intel on these fools:
http://www.billwarnerpi.com/2009/01/...ists-have.html

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Perhaps we can follow up with a few tommy-hawks on pirate HQ? They do like to ask for million dollar ransoms, we can just give one to them in guided missles. :D

Seriously, judging by the size of ransoms they ask for it's not poverty which motivates them, but greed. They got the guns and the numbers it seems to try to make something of their Nation, to fight for good things like liberty and self-governence. But they choose a path of greed and therefore die for nothing.
I won't celebrate their death, but they were asking for it and I hope others like them recognize they will meet a similiar end if they prey on ships of the U.S.A.

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This happened in conjunction with the time line of events of this thread:
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/French_..._04102009.html

A similar incident happened last year, this might be the article:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3731628.ece

Re: What to do with these pirates?
 

Just saw that a pirate claimed that they're now going to kill hostages if attacked, "treating others like their countries treat us".

Fine. Time for patrols, and if you're not scheduled to be in those shipping lanes on legit business, you're going down. Kill the hostage? Get ready to swim, Slappy.

Hey. Life sucks when you decide to live on the illegal side. All that death, dying, and eaten by sharks stuff? It's real. And it's waiting.

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Here's an updated news story of how it went down:


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By PAULINE JELINEK
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


Published: Monday, April 13, 2009 at 7:41 a.m.

Adm. William Gortney said Monday it took only three shots for Navy snipers to kill the trio of pirates holding cargo ship Capt. Richard Phillips hostage on a lifeboat drifting in the high sea.
Interviewed from Bahrain, Gortney said the takedown happened shortly after the hostage-takers were observed by sailors aboard the USS Bainbridge “with their heads and shoulders exposed.”
Asked how the snipers could have killed each pirate with a single shot in the darkness, Gortney described them as “extremely, extremely well-trained.” He told NBC’s “Today” show the shooting by the snipers was ordered by the captain of the Bainbridge after the pirates “exposed themselves” to attack.

Military officials were widely praising the snipers for three flawless shots, which they described as remarkable, coming at night and from the stern of a ship on rolling waters.
Defense officials also indicated, speaking anonymously, that the Navy snipers got the go-ahead to fire after one of the pirates was seen holding an AK-47 so close to Phillips that the weapon appeared to be touching him.

Two other pirates popped their heads up, giving snipers all three of their targets, one official said.
The military officials asked not to be named because they were not authorized to publicly discuss the case.

They said that a fourth pirate who survived was believed to be between 16 and 20 years old, and had in effect surrendered before the sniper rescue.
One official said he jumped into a small craft that had been taking food to the lifeboat, and asked to be taken to the Bainbridge. He also needed medical help because he had been stabbed in the hand on the Maersk Alabama in the initial standoff with crew members when the pirates attempted unsuccessfully to take over the cargo vessel, officials said.

Shane Murphy, a crew member of the Maersk Alabama, told a news conference: “We are lucky to be out of it with every one of us alive. We never had to fight to take our ship back. We never gave up.”
The Navy released images of the scene from an unmanned drone, Scan Eagle. It showed that the snipers had positioned themselves on the fantail of the Bainbridge. The snipers fired simultaneously. One of the pirates was in the pilot house.

The SEALS arrived on the scene by parachuting from their aircraft into the sea, and they were picked up by the Bainbridge, a senior U.S. official said.
He said negotiations with the pirates had been “going up and down. Discussions would be going well, and then they would get discouraged and real angry.”

This official, asking not to be publicly identified because he, too, was not authorized to discuss this on the record, said the pirates were “becoming increasingly agitated in the rough waters; they weren’t getting what they wanted.”

Just as it was getting dark, pirates fired a tracer bullet “toward the Bainbridge,” further heightening the sense that the incident was ratcheting up, the official said.
He said that at the time snipers took their shot, Phillips’ hands were bound.

Phillips, the American sea captain who had offered himself as a hostage to save his crew, was rescued Sunday in a daring high-seas operation by U.S. Navy SEAL snipers.
The operation was a victory for the world’s most powerful military but angry pirates vowed Monday to retaliate.
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They did it like I thought.. simultaneously.. how did they shoot them at night?? Um, night vision.. Very nice shots. 3 shots, 3 kills. They would have killed him or if they made land, no one would see him again except maybe on a video... :mad:

Re: What to do with these pirates?
 

So, where were the snipers shooting from? If they used parachutes..
They could not have made those shots, floating the water..

..and I heard the captain jumped out of the boat, before the shooting began.