hi guys hows it goiN? ^^) OK! im a ranger (wee) and im doing the ranger stronghold quest!! WOOT!! i was pokin around in the umar hills ( some fun quests) one of the quests was giving 3 kids some liquor and weapons. when they asked for the items i was like SURE join in the fun! so i gave them what they wanted.... it was only later that i discovered that giving the kids the items would negatively affect my stronghold quest!!! O NO!!! how exactly will this affect my quest? and what can i do?

[ 07-23-2003, 02:52 AM: Message edited by: jinny ]

If you give the kids beer or swords you LOSE your stronghold. But there is a way to regain it.

I won`t spoil you how,but if you want to be spoiled just ask.(I hope not)

Spoil it for me.... if.... they dont tell u how to regain the stronghold openly ... if its some secret way then tell me

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About 5 days later Delon comes to you and asks you to
return. It seems that the Umar Witch has returned.
Go talk to Minister Lloid again. Now go to the Temple
Ruins again. Before you enter the ruins, Mairyn
appears and asks the same thing. Enter. There are
many undead in here, as well as a Glabrezu (demon).
You will find Umar at the Crystal ).
Talk to her, but be ready for a fight. Turns out she
is just some minor mageling. Kill her and return to
the surface. Mairyn will then reward you with a
Moon Dog figurine, Reputation +1 and 26,750 exp. If
you were a Fallen Ranger this will also restore your
Rangerhood. Minister Lloid offers no reward this
time.

Such lively new people we are getting these days :D

Do as Xen said, but I think that goes for any of the ranger quests that Delon comes to get you for.

err.... i still got my stronghold even tho i gave them the items.... maybe its because i gave them the items BEFORE i talked to the mayor about taking on the quest.... aniwayz.... i went to the umar cave and they were there running away from the gibberling.... (this is before i went to temple ruins) i completed the temple ruins quest and i came back to the Umar Hills. Some people yelled at me for giving them the items.... but when i talked to them again they jez forgot about it... does this mean the boys are lost forever? or what? is this a bug?

This is what's supposed to happen. The beer and swords are considered bad things to do, and by saving the little brats, you've done something good to cancel it out.

*channels Gene Wilder* They're hardy people, salt-of-the-earth. You know, morons. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

From a roleplayer's point of view, my Paladin just went through the Umar Hills a couple of days ago, and was all too happy to buy the boys some swords. They're certainly old enough ("I'll buy you swords....but no ale. You've barely fuzz on your chins"), and their village is under the shadow of some ill-defined ominous threat. The only people who wouldn't want to support their town with a few more defenders are some extremely overprotective parents, if you ask me. These kids should have had adequate weapons training years ago.