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wellard 12-13-2003 08:00 AM

OK its death match time :D

the most fully equipped Cleric v the most fully equipped mage in a best of three rumble to the death :evil:

Who would win and why??


Rules .... no mods but TOB and fully patched.


Lets rumble :D

Ny'irilit 12-13-2003 08:53 AM

Mage, however it would be a close fight. in terms of summoning spells they are just about equal in my opinion, as for defencive and agressive spells the mage wins. some spells such as dragons breath are no match for any cleric domain spells.

ive never been a cleric myself but i have never been beaten by one, whereas i have been beaten by mages many times

my 2 cents

el_kalkylus 12-13-2003 10:04 AM

I also think mage. The cleric can't dispel -or use illusions I think, and if we are talking ToB, the mage could use firebreath among with timestop etc.

On the topic of cleric, I want to say how fun it was to play a Cleric of Talos. You could have the cleric walk right into a mob with storm shield and let the sorcerer/mage cast fireballs, lightning or whatever at him, he was completely immune to everything, the monsters weren't. It was also a sight to see him walk into an undead area in his sanctuary and turn paladin. You could have armies of undead this way, and just walk right pass them without need to fight which was very nice.

Ares 12-13-2003 11:31 AM

Mage by a mile, Improved Alacrity + Timestop = dead cleric

Also, I gotta try a Talos cleric now, they sound fun :D

Dace De'Briago 12-13-2003 01:06 PM

I'm going to throw a spanner in the works and say the Cleric/Mage multiclass would win ;)

Userunfriendly 12-13-2003 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dace De'Briago:
I'm going to throw a spanner in the works and say the Cleric/Mage multiclass would win ;)
but not against a sorceror...

Userunfriendly 12-13-2003 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ny'irilit:
Mage, however it would be a close fight. in terms of summoning spells they are just about equal in my opinion, as for defencive and agressive spells the mage wins. some spells such as dragons breath are no match for any cleric domain spells.

ive never been a cleric myself but i have never been beaten by one, whereas i have been beaten by mages many times

my 2 cents

you're quite right, the game mages CHEAT...some game mages cast spells from scripts, which can't be interrupted, or is very hard to interrupt (I've done it...and its hard) but its relatively easy and fun to interrupt clerics...

now the real question is

sorc vs cleric/mage multi...both same experience point level, say about 8 million or so...who would win??? i think sorceror...but a chain contingency implosion is hard to beat...

Xen 12-13-2003 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ares:
Mage by a mile, Improved Alacrity + Timestop = dead cleric

Also, I gotta try a Talos cleric now, they sound fun :D

He said no ToB!


I say Mage. With the PI cheese and he can buff up like hell. Now if he casts/reads TS from a scroll than he can use MMM in TS and he will hit everytime.(Due to auto hit)

Ny'irilit 12-13-2003 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wellard:
OK its death match time :D

Rules .... no mods but TOB and fully patched.


Lets rumble :D

yes TOB!!! id say cleric/mage stands a slight chance as sorceror has no variation at all. mage can sent 20 types of spells at you where the sorc sents 20 spells of 6 types at you...

mage beats sorceror anytime, aswell

Userunfriendly 12-13-2003 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by Ny'irilit:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by wellard:
OK its death match time :D

Rules .... no mods but TOB and fully patched.


Lets rumble :D

yes TOB!!! id say cleric/mage stands a slight chance as sorceror has no variation at all. mage can sent 20 types of spells at you where the sorc sents 20 spells of 6 types at you...

mage beats sorceror anytime, aswell
</font>[/QUOTE]urm, no...sorcs beat mages every time...depending on spell selection...

a knowledgable soa/tob player, who understands and really knows spell selection, (hint, hint...read xyx's spell guide and my cheese guide ;) ;) )

can beat mages almost every time...its the sheer number of GOOD spells a sorc can cast that overwhelms a mage...

except maybe edwin...

the specialist bonus spells and his amulet may prove decisive...he can cast a lot of spells at higher levels...a lot of spells....

it would actually be an interesting 3 way duel...

cleric mage vs edwin vs sorceror


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