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krunchyfrogg 02-10-2005 06:11 PM

What happens when you first enter the graveyard if you are not romancing anyone?

In every game I've played, I have always been in a romance. If there's no romance, does Bodhi abduct anybody? If so, then who will she take?

LennonCook 02-10-2005 06:17 PM

<span style="color: lightblue">Generally not. If you happen to have Solaufein installed, though, she will always take him, romance or no.

Jerr Conner 02-10-2005 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by LennonCook:
<span style="color: lightblue">Generally not. If you happen to have Solaufein installed, though, she will always take him, romance or no.
Don't get me wrong, I like Sola, but I never understood why Bodhi would just abduct him either way.

To me, Minsc or Anomen seems a better choice for a random abduction. Considering Sola would just be an undead evil Drow (Not surprising or interesting) where Minsc or Anomen, Undead Ranger and Knight (Interesting contradiction for Bodhi to enjoy).

SixOfSpades 02-11-2005 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by Jerr Conner:
Don't get me wrong, I like Sola, but I never understood why Bodhi would just abduct him either way.
Where Weimer is concerned, logic always takes a pack seat to powergaming. Bodhi takes Solaufein because it makes the game harder. Solaufein becomes a Vampire/Fighter/Drow/Lich because it makes the game harder. Improved Faldorn is practically unbeatable because it makes the game harder. Etc.

Klorox 02-11-2005 03:09 PM

Games are better w/o mods, imho.

dont let this very small part of the game determine whether or not you want to romance somebody.

Jerr Conner 02-11-2005 04:15 PM

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Originally posted by SixOfSpades:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jerr Conner:
Don't get me wrong, I like Sola, but I never understood why Bodhi would just abduct him either way.

Where Weimer is concerned, logic always takes a pack seat to powergaming. Bodhi takes Solaufein because it makes the game harder. Solaufein becomes a Vampire/Fighter/Drow/Lich because it makes the game harder. Improved Faldorn is practically unbeatable because it makes the game harder. Etc. </font>[/QUOTE]There's an Improved Faldorn now!?

She's kind of hard without using Cernd...

I've never played a druid so I don't know if she's hard that way either.

Dace De'Briago 02-11-2005 08:03 PM

Improved Faldorn is the most munchkinesque Weimer mod in the history of mankind.

In a fair fight, you do not stand a hope in hell of beating her.

[ 02-11-2005, 08:09 PM: Message edited by: Dace De'Briago ]

Jerr Conner 02-11-2005 10:04 PM

LMAO!

Link 02-12-2005 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SixOfSpades:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jerr Conner:
Don't get me wrong, I like Sola, but I never understood why Bodhi would just abduct him either way.

Where Weimer is concerned, logic always takes a pack seat to powergaming. Bodhi takes Solaufein because it makes the game harder. Solaufein becomes a Vampire/Fighter/Drow/Lich because it makes the game harder. Improved Faldorn is practically unbeatable because it makes the game harder. Etc. </font>[/QUOTE]He still hasn't listened to your calls in making the game more realistic instead of harder?

SixOfSpades 02-14-2005 06:30 PM

After I posted my Tactics Review, he actually made a lot of changes (such as the fact that Improved Ilyich is staffed with Duergar now, instead of Shadow Thieves), which are listed in the README-SixOfSpades.txt file that comes with the more recent versions of Tactics.

While I changed his mind on some things, he remained unconvinced on others--which I can understand, I'm not trying to style myself as the ultimate authority on game balance. The one area in which I think he fell short is his willingness to make changes to those components designed by other people, such as Kensai Ryu's Gnome Illusionst and Mike Barnes's Small Teeth Pass. I feel that if you bundle something in with your own stuff, you have an obligation to ensure that that it's just as good as what you wrote--because if it isn't, your reputation suffers from the association. But, then again, I also respect Weimer's decision to let the original modders have the final say in what goes on in their components.

Weimer has either not seen or not responded to any feedback from me in regards to Tougher Demons, Improved Druid Grove, or Improved Fire Giants, as these components were added after I wrote my Review. I haven't heard from Weimer in quite some time, as he seems to have disappeared for a while....either because he's busy with real-life stuff, or because he's tired of listening to me piss & moan. [img]smile.gif[/img]


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