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cris 02-08-2006 02:15 PM

if your PC is multi class(or dual class) how will the stronghold quests work?
will you get two places, a choice of one or the other, or a predetermined one which you cannot choose?
Also, what are the available strongholds for the different classes?

Morgeruat 02-08-2006 02:22 PM

It depends on the multiclass, in general you can only take one, but if one of your classes is fighter do the keep quest to obtain it, but say "let me think about it" get your other stronghold and come back to claim the keep and you can have two. Otherwise you need to use something like Shadowkeeper to get more than 1.

Armen 02-08-2006 05:25 PM

this should help

http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/cg...c;f=2;t=023410

Link 02-08-2006 05:36 PM

There's the Ease-Of-Use mod that lets you take multiple strongholds if I'm not mistaking.

SixOfSpades 02-08-2006 05:59 PM

Without cheating or using mods that cheat for you, if you are eligible for more than one stronghold, whichever one you accept first becomes your stronghold, and no more will be offered.

Bug: Ranger/Clerics are not eligible for the Cleric stronghold. Installing the Oversight mod fixes this.

Kyrvias 02-08-2006 07:33 PM

I tend to disagree, Six. This would not consider cheating, as it could easily become part of the game. I just recently did this with a Fighter/Druid

I first did my stronghold quest, by taking out hte shadow druids, then killed the Trolls. Well, I thought I should just well, do some other quests, instead of sleeping over and over till the next quest.

So I did the De'Arnise quest. At the end of that, I didn't have Nalia in my party, she offered the keep to me. Lo and behold, I have two strongholds! To be frank, I think this would work with any combo of Fighter multiclass, but I don't think it would work with a F/M/T.

Some may think of it as cheating, but I disagree. This is something that anyone could have stumbled upon, especially on a first run through.

Just my 2 cents.

Dace De'Briago 02-09-2006 07:53 PM

I'd class it as a bug, because I don't believe that Bioware intended for characters to have multiple strongholds (by limiting a character to one stronghold per runthrough, you are expanding the life of the game considerably).

I don't believe that exploiting a bug, and cheating are the same thing however. As stated above, it is a legitimate mistake that could be made.

SixOfSpades 02-10-2006 04:35 PM

The way that Nalia can be worked around (in the default game) so that the Keep can be run concurrently with another stronghold would either be a bug or an oversight, depending on your preferred terminology. Either way, it's something BioWare didn't intend.

True, I see no reason why a heroic, mighty Bhaalspawn couldn't run two or more strongholds at a time--indeed, they could (and do) pretty much run the entire nation of Amn. But that's in a SINGLE game. Over MANY games, being limited to only the stronghold that best fits your class is what gives the stronghold quests their replay value, and replay value is what makes BG so robust--without it, there would be no mods, and this forum probably wouldn't even exist.

ElfBane 02-10-2006 06:23 PM

cris,,,,if you decide to use the "multiple strongholds" mod, get ready for some traveling! You will be getting jerked around constantly to maintain some of the strongholds. The bard and thief strongholds are especially in need of micromanaging. Good luck.

cris 02-11-2006 05:22 AM

On the link Armen posted, i didn't see any reference to what stronghold a monk, barbarian or sorcerer would get?
it would be kind of unfair if they don't get one.
it might make sense to give the sorcerer tha same as the mage and barbarian the same as fighter but that still leaves the monk?


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