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Drawde1 09-11-2001 03:29 PM

I posted this in the ToB forum since it contains a few minor spoilers about ToB.. The Wave halberd apparently has the ability to instantly kill fire-based enemies like Fire Elementals, Efreeti and Fire Salamanders (not Fire Giants alas), without a saving throw. So I expected this weapon to be very handy in the Marching Mountains. It certainly demolished the Fire Elementals, including Imix, but against the fire salamanders (of which there were a lot) it behaved just like an ordinary halberd. This is quite annoying since salamanders can be very nasty en masse. I haven't tried it against Efreeti (do you ever meet any, other than summoned ones?).
I assume this is a bug - could the BG2 Fix Pack creator rectify it maybe?

On the subject of weapons that instantly kill a type of monster, I've found that the Rod of Smiting is near-useless - I've had my Fighter/Mage with a good AC and THAC0, plus 2 points of proficiency in two-handed and quarterstaff weapons, wielding it and have only killed ONE golem via the instant-death effect so far. (And I've tried it against plenty of them!) Could this be because golems have very low saving throws vs. death?

Erekose 09-12-2001 01:59 AM

Golems have pretty good saving throws.

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www.cffl.com 09-12-2001 10:10 AM

Yeah golems have a verry good saving throws against everything. Where do you find that halbeard and the rod of smiting http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/rand.gif

Memnoch 09-12-2001 12:05 PM

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The Wave you put together. One piece is in the Astral Prison (HaerDalis quest) and the other is in the Sahuagin city, on the Rebel Prince.

The Rod of Smiting is available for purchase in the Underdark, in Ust Natha.

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Memnoch 09-12-2001 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by Drawde1:

On the subject of weapons that instantly kill a type of monster, I've found that the Rod of Smiting is near-useless - I've had my Fighter/Mage with a good AC and THAC0, plus 2 points of proficiency in two-handed and quarterstaff weapons, wielding it and have only killed ONE golem via the instant-death effect so far. (And I've tried it against plenty of them!) Could this be because golems have very low saving throws vs. death?

Try casting Greater Malison just beforehand.

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Dundee Slaytern 09-12-2001 09:52 PM

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Originally posted by Memnoch:
Try casting Greater Malison just beforehand.
But Memnoch, Golems are immuned to Greater Malison!

Still puzzling over why Cloudkill can bypass their Magic Immunity.

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Erekose 09-13-2001 08:32 AM

A better trick against most golems is to trap them down a narrow passage and have a few characters equipted with unlimited missile weapons ie. tasherons bow, the fire-knife (cannot remember it's name) and azure-edge. The true hammer of thunder bolts and lightning is also pretty handy for most golems and trolls.

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Rikard 09-15-2001 02:58 PM

where can you find Fiure tooth? (the fire dagger)

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Crom Feayr is really effective gainst all golems and stone and clay golems in special

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Dundee Slaytern 09-15-2001 03:04 PM

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where can you find Firetooth? (the fire dagger)
From the Drow merchants, in the Drow City, in the Underdark.

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Mirac Honorguard 09-16-2001 04:42 PM

Golems and good saving throws??????? I bumped into a ademantium golem once as a necromancer. Did 2 lower resistance and ONE finger of death, the golem sank to his knees. Pure luck I guess then http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

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