OK. I rescued the prisoners. Fought my way out of the camp. Have both prisoners in my party. Got back to the trang base and went to see Zan't. All went well. Zant gave me a letter to the umpani and a trang tracking device. The 8 of us then went to the umpani base to see the general and seal the deal. Here's trouble....

The after getting to the 2nd lvl of mt gigas... the umpani npc says something to the effect of 'I'm sick of you guys, I'm not going any further without the trang." and then leaves my party. I couldn't get him to rejoin even tho I had the trang npc in my party. So I decided to go on to the general and show him the peace leader. About 100meters further the trang called me a traitor to the empire and left my party. I went on to the general and he would take the note from me. Anyone seen this before?

Wow, Bubba, that's a strange one. Never heard of that happening before. The two of them should stay in the party until you've blown the ship and returned to Yamir. Since you're in Mt. Gigas, I can't think of any reason why Rodan would suddenly leave the party. Drazic is understandable: once Rodan is not with you, he won't stay.

Of course, in my groups, I always have someone set a portal near Yamir, just to avoid those tedious caves on the way back with the two prisoners.

Anyway, all I can think of is: did you kill the Rapax King before you left the Away Camp?

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Yes, I killed the king. Couldn't find the prince to kill him tho, his tent was empty.

The prince can't be killed until you reach Ascension Peak, so that isn't the cause.

Maybe there's some time limit here that we don't know about? Yet that doesn't make much sense. In early games, I'd bop back to the T'rang teleporter, walk from there to Z'Ant, then take the teleport to the Northern Wilderness and trek on down (up?) to Yamir (this convinced me a teleport near him was a must). Neither Rodan nor Drazic had any complaints.

Then again, if you don't have any teleport spells set up and had to walk the whole way, at least to the Bluff, maybe that was a factor?

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No I teleported immediatly to the trang base. Then went to zant. Then I used the trang 4way teleporter to get back to umpani area. Hmm. This is odd

In my first go-round I had a similar problem when Drazic got paralyzed by some giant spiders. The other NPCs seemed to take that as if he wasn't there at all. Is it possible that the status of your NPC is something other than normal?

I reloaded to before the spider encounter and there was no problem.

Hmm, well Drazic died during the war with the rapax after I liberated the prisoners. I didn't res him until after I teleported back to lower martens bluff. He was 100% alive and kicking when I went to the umpain areas tho. I wonder if that made any difference. ACK. I hate to go back thru that battle again, it took sooooo long. Any tips on a quick way to dispatch those archers in the towers with only one bishop for a spell caster? I found I couldn't climb the ladders to engage them in close combat as I was always in combat mode when I got close to the ladders. I wasted LOTS of magic regen potions chain casting crush and dehydrate at them.

wait till nightfall, use chameleon, and you should be able to sneak your way towards the ladder and up into the towers.. save before climbing up.. the rapax could knock you down to the ground with their bows if they use a physical attack and not a ranged (as a bow should be used.)

Either that, or you could use asphyxiation or other spells that don't require you to target your enemies. with a cone/sphere of influence-thingie.

After the first time I did the rescue, I figured there had to be a better way of getting out of there. Basically, I set a portal right in the king's tent. After getting R&D (hmmm) into the party, we just zip over, kill the king, and get out of there with another portal to the T'rang base.

Crossing a boundary with Drazic dead may have been the cause of your problem. The programming in this game is less than perfect, and even though you revived Drazic later, that may not have been taken into account.

So I guess, if you want to do the alliance (and get the 1.2 mil exp), you'll have to restore and do that part over.

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As for the Archers. My ranger was quite good in shooting them with th triple shot crossbow. Sometimes he even instantly killed them.