Orcs at a Daedric Ruin, Fighter's Guild quest... The quest is to kill the leader of the orcs at a Daedric ruin north-east of the Fields of Kummu. I've killed three orcs on the lower level of the ruin, and one on the top level (I assume there's only two floors), but I can't find the leader. Can anyone help?

The title of this thread is pretty vague, 'cause I figured anyone that wants help on a quest should just post in here. Because y'know, if we get a few more threads this forum might spill over to two pages, and the world would implode.

The leader is at the top level. Try to find him at every nook and cranny?

If people got questions and need help. Wouldn't it better for them to create a new thread? Thus making this board seem alive? ;)

Hmm. The orc I killed on the top level didn't have the name mentioned in my journal... And I have looked rather hard! Anyway, thanks a lot, I'll get back to Olaf the Farmer and see if he confirms it for me.

And sure, new threads for everybody! Making this board seem alive would certainly help train our Illusion skills [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

As I vaguely recall now, I reached this guy by using a flying potion and zipping up to his location. Don't recall any other way of reaching him from inside below, but there may be another outside entry that leads here. Always have a few flying potions with you if you can't cast the spell; they are a big help in many situations.

Also, just about every quest you get from people wandering in the outdoors is an optional one and has no impact on the main line. If you forget to do one or just give up on one, it doesn't matter.

You can also let the main line (through Cosades for now) sit and do other things for as long as you like. Time is generally not a factor in this game.

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There is an entrance at the top level. It is just a bitch to find it.

Yeah, I conveniently stumbled upon the top entrance after fleeing from a Flame Atronach (I'm a High Elf, born under The Lord. We do not like fire). Quest completed, thankyou Ironworks!

Btw, I told Caius from the start that I wasn't ready to follow his orders. I plan to rise to the head of the Fighter's Guild and then rule House Telvanni (very abstract, I know). Eventually my character will realise that there is something missing from his life, a sense of incompletion... And he will finally return to bow before Caius, serve the Emperor and fulfil his destiny.

In the meantime however, how do I get 2000 septims debt money out of Lirielle in The Rat In The Pot? There doesn't seem to be a relevant dialogue option.

Try raising the disposition first and see whether the dialogue option comes out or Pay them yourself. ;)

Raising the disposition doesn't help. I'd be glad to pay it myself, but I can't. If I talk to the Guild about it they just keep telling me to get the money from her.

Problem solved [img]smile.gif[/img] Talked to Mercius, he helped me out with it.