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SecretMaster 03-28-2002 07:36 PM

Did you guys here that (got a bit confused here, so if there is a mistake i apoligize) Israelis got attacked by Palenstinians. This is just madness on a holiday thats supposed to be happy. I for one is furied that someone would attack on a well known holiday for all Jewish people. This is just morally wrong.

AzRaeL StoRmBlaDe 03-28-2002 08:54 PM

Didnt Washington attack the British on Christmas or something during the revolutionary war??? was this moraly wrong too?
theres an old addage ive heard: "all's fair in love and war"
War isnt about morality, respect, or anything of the kind. When there is a war both sides want to win, and I am sure they could both care less what religion the other side is. In this case their religion makes them weak. Not that I condone the actionsof either side, war is all together wrong, and I dont not stand for it or violence of any kind, but i am not surprised.

John D Harris 03-28-2002 10:04 PM

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Originally posted by AzRaeL StoRmBlaDe:
Didnt Washington attack the British on Christmas or something during the revolutionary war??? was this moraly wrong too?
theres an old addage ive heard: "all's fair in love and war"
War isnt about morality, respect, or anything of the kind. When there is a war both sides want to win, and I am sure they could both care less what religion the other side is. In this case their religion makes them weak. Not that I condone the actionsof either side, war is all together wrong, and I dont not stand for it or violence of any kind, but i am not surprised.

AzRaeL StoRmBlaDe, I agree with you on most of your points, Scary Huh?. War is probibly the most horrible endevor that mankind can enbark on. The object of war is to kill your enemy, nothing more nothing less. War in itself is neither right nor wrong. It simply is. The motivation for starting, or continuing war is the factor that makes war right or wrong.

Yorick 03-29-2002 01:00 PM

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Originally posted by AzRaeL StoRmBlaDe:
Didnt Washington attack the British on Christmas or something during the revolutionary war??? was this moraly wrong too?
theres an old addage ive heard: "all's fair in love and war"
War isnt about morality, respect, or anything of the kind. When there is a war both sides want to win, and I am sure they could both care less what religion the other side is. In this case their religion makes them weak. Not that I condone the actionsof either side, war is all together wrong, and I dont not stand for it or violence of any kind, but i am not surprised.

I am surprised. It's stupid. It hampers the Palestinian cause as it gives the Israelis the moral highground. Killing civilians on a holiday is in Koffi Anan's words "heartless" to say the least.

Repugnant is another word that comes to mind.

America may have attacked the British on Christmas day, but during World War one, soldiers played football with each other and exchanged cigarettes on Christmas day. America was also concerned about being at war with Al Qaeda during Ramadan.

Avoiding civilian death, and thus public festivals are two ideals 'civilised' nations have endeavoured to respect.

Making the grisly business of killing people slightly less barbaric.

Terrorism totally reverses this concept, targetting civilians, maximising their death

fable 03-29-2002 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by Yorick:
I am surprised. It's stupid. It hampers the Palestinian cause as it gives the Israelis the moral highground.
Only as long as the Israeli government doesn't do something as stupid; and given Sharon's history, I think we can unfortunately count on him to fire quickly and indiscriminately, destroying on an exponential order of magnitude. Last I heard, a few minutes back on the BBC, the Israelis had done just that, and many Palestinians were wounded and dead.

Mirac Honorguard 03-29-2002 07:08 PM

I heard Israel gave the palestinians the heat wave and got Arrafat cornerend.
I recon it'll be going to be very messy.

MagiK 03-29-2002 07:25 PM

The way I have read this, is that The Palistinians on the eve of possibly attaining their goal of an independant state through a peace brokered by the Saudis, proved that they are not honest, decent people just looking for a home, their attacks during the peace talks proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that they never wanted peace, Arafat never wanted peace, all they want is continued bloodshed untill the Israelies are all dead. The PLO had the chance for what they said they wanted and instead they threw it all away, now they are back to square one, Im starting to think that Israel might just be better off eliminating the whole group.....except that that would really mean killing innocents and that I cant even think of condoning. the PLO is no better than the Taliban and Al-queda in that they target defenseless men, women and children instead of targeting military and political targets. It is the same indescriminate killing as the Trade Towers of 9/11 but has been going on a lot longer. I can have no sympathy for them now...they HAD what they said they wanted and wasted the chance....so sad.


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