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250 10-02-2002 08:10 AM

whats the difference? I am very ashamed beacause I am a chinese head to toe... can anyone enlighten me whats the difference between the two? I probally know the chinese translation of the two, though I doubt I've ever heard of "Zen". Anyways, whats the difference?

Ronn_Bman 10-02-2002 08:16 AM

Zat was Zen, and diss is Tao.

Sorry, I couldn't resist :D

250 10-02-2002 08:19 AM

zat is very convujin...

Attalus 10-02-2002 08:51 AM

Taoism «TOW ihz uhm or DOW ihz uhm», is a philosophy that began in China, probably during the 300's B.C. Taoism is also the name of a religion that began in about the 100's B.C. Through the centuries, the philosophy has influenced artists and writers in the East and West. The word tao (also spelled dao) originally meant road or way. The Tao (Way) represents the characteristics or behavior that makes each thing in the universe what it is. The word is also used to mean reality as a whole, which consists of all the individual "ways."



Zen is an East Asian form of Buddhism. Zen Buddhism is practiced primarily in Japan and has greatly influenced Japanese culture. Since the mid-1900's, Zen has gained many followers in the United States.

The goal of Zen is the attainment of a state of spiritual enlightenment called satori. Zen Buddhists believe meditation is the key to achieving satori. There are two major schools of Zen, Rinzai and Soto. Followers of Rinzai meditate on the meaning of baffling riddles called koans while sitting cross-legged. People who practice Soto meditate in the same position. They also read from the sacred works of Mahayana Buddhism, another East Asian form of the religion. Zen Buddhists believe physical labor contributes to the attainment of enlightenment. They work closely with a teacher called the master, who guides their search for satori.

Zen developed in China, where it is called Chan. According to legend, an Indian monk named Bodhidharma first taught its principles in China in the A.D. 500's. Two Japanese priests, Eisai and Dogen, introduced Chan into Japan. Eisai founded the Rinzai school in the 1100's, and Dogen established the Soto school in the 1200's. Zen quickly became a major religious and cultural force in Japan.

Hope that helps. They're from the World Book. :D

250 10-02-2002 08:58 AM

weird, I've never heard of Chan... or maybe it is pronounced differently in china. anyways, thanks a lot [img]smile.gif[/img]

Paladin2000 10-02-2002 01:27 PM

That is...interesting. I am Chinese and I always tought that Zen was originated from Japan. Hmm...I better meditate on this.

Azred 10-02-2002 03:16 PM

<font color = lightgreen>The Tao is everything, including nothing.

The Zen that can be described is not Zen.</font>


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