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Firim Silraven 03-08-2003 02:15 PM

Hello! I am writing a fantasy novel/story (it's likely to be more than one book)and I'm not sure how to go about language creation for some of the races. Like all good fantasy I have elves and dwarves, but I'd like them to have their own languages, not just 'the common tongue'. I don't want to steal a language from Tolkien or anyone, but I'm having trouble coming up with something decent. Could anyone give advice?

Reeka 03-08-2003 02:39 PM

Well, just a suggestion, but you could radomly assign letters of the alphabet to different letters and translate. For instance-----A could.....Y for instance and so on.

Then do that for the next language and so on. This may be a terrilbe idea or it may need tinkering.

andrewas 03-08-2003 03:18 PM

I have the feeling that letter shuffling will result in an unpronouncable mess. Might be worth a shot though, but I would suggest making vowels say vowels. So e=a is OK, but e=x is out. Even then, I dunno.

Try making up new words for the basics of the language - "a", "the" and so on and so forth, and then make up new words as you need them. Make sure to include homonyms, synonyms and other grammatical nightmares. You should change the grammar slightly - make the elves speak like yoda, for example.

Its going to be a fair amount of work however you do it.

Kakero 03-08-2003 04:35 PM

try not to change A to Y or B to K thing. squaresoft did this in FFX and it sounds horrible.

how about using another non english language? like spanish or chinese?

TheGrandSlayer 03-08-2003 04:55 PM

Well for speaking the language all you do is write down things that sound cool
Example:
Molanteth Nehroun,woah that does sound cool

Attalus 03-08-2003 05:01 PM

Or, you could read an essay by one who is a fairly dab hand at it: J.R.R. Tolkein. He wrote an essay on the creation of new languages called "A Secret Vice." It is included in The Monsters and the Critics and Other Essays. (Houghton Miflin, Boston, 1984) Christopher Tolkein, ed.

Horatio 03-08-2003 05:02 PM

Rearrange normal words...

ie bear=reba ;)

[ 03-08-2003, 05:02 PM: Message edited by: Horatio ]

SomeGuy 03-08-2003 08:16 PM

Make a new version of pig latin called.................... PENGUIN LATIN!!! Or just name it cow latin. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

SecretMaster 03-08-2003 08:34 PM

Get a two year old to write something, then use that as a saying.

Rikard_OHF 03-08-2003 08:38 PM

Make a different alphabet and write stuff in english wioth those letters
ur readeers wont understand it anyway ;)

Change grammer
chine for example doesnt change it's verbs and doest have a plural
the place in a sentence is extreemly important in chinese

Latin is the opposite
eacht form gets it's own verbdestraction and each word has its own form
place in sentence is of no importance in latin


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