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Animal 03-08-2003 04:24 PM

It looks like ATI has announced the release of the Radeon 9800 Pro. Check the link for benchmarks.
It looks like although nVidia has a faster memory clock speed, ATI still wins out with higher memory bandwidth. If you want realistic looking graphics and anti aliasing it looks like ATI has dethroned nVidia.

http://www.maximumpc.com/features/fe...003-03-05.html

[ 03-08-2003, 04:27 PM: Message edited by: Animal ]

Kakero 03-08-2003 04:31 PM

I prefer ATI graphic cards because it is cheaper than nVidia graphic cards.

andrewas 03-08-2003 04:38 PM

I think Nvidia cards are cheaper texel for texel, but Ive never done a proper comparison.

Still, I am not impressed with the GFX. It looks to me that technology that is pushed to its limit. A standard operating temperature that high cannot be good, and apparently its loud enough to hear in the next room.

Im thinking that Nvidia had better do something radical with the GFXs successor, if they dont want ATI to take the graphics market entirely.

Animal 03-08-2003 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by andrewas:
I think Nvidia cards are cheaper texel for texel, but Ive never done a proper comparison.

Still, I am not impressed with the GFX. It looks to me that technology that is pushed to its limit. A standard operating temperature that high cannot be good, and apparently its loud enough to hear in the next room.

Im thinking that Nvidia had better do something radical with the GFXs successor, if they dont want ATI to take the graphics market entirely.

I agree, I think Nvidia was sitting around letting the Geforce2 and 3 carry it, while not producing and new tech. Even the Geforce 4 isn't any real huge improvement over the Geforce 3. The FX was probably released as a makeshift until nVidia could get their act together. Only problem with ATI that I see, is some compatibility issues since most companies have been optimizing for nVidia.

Kakero 03-08-2003 04:49 PM

well, if nVidia don't want competition, it can just buy out ATI like it did to 3dfx.

Sir Krustin 03-08-2003 05:58 PM

I don't mind it when companies like ATI aggressively pursue the market, nVidia did the same thing to 3dfx that ATI is trying to do to nVidia.

Just when you thought competetion was dead. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

nVidia will likely pull it's socks up and build a better nextgen product, and the consumer will win again with lower, competitive pricing.

Animal 03-08-2003 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sir Krustin:
I don't mind it when companies like ATI aggressively pursue the market, nVidia did the same thing to 3dfx that ATI is trying to do to nVidia.

Just when you thought competetion was dead. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

nVidia will likely pull it's socks up and build a better nextgen product, and the consumer will win again with lower, competitive pricing.

Exactly, in fact, competition in the vid card market couldn't be better. 3DLabs is back up and running again even SiS is releasing video card chipsets directly aimed at NVidia's MX line up, but with programmable shaders and for less money to boot.

Finally, nVidia's reign of ridiculous pricing can come to an end with the majority of PC gamers being able to run decent cards. I can't remember where I saw it, but about 85% of all 3DMark benchmarks were run using Geforce 2 class cards.

This is great for gamers, as software companies will begin to produce games using advanced features for better looking graphics since the majority of people can afford advanced cards.

Edit: typos (broken fingers)

[ 03-08-2003, 06:17 PM: Message edited by: Animal ]

Felix The Assassin 03-09-2003 06:33 AM

Wow,
Nvidia has yet to reclaim the throne?? Geez, Ati took the lead last Fall with the 9700pro. In the graphics market, that's an eternity.

Nvidia does not have the capital to acquire Ati, and vice versa. Both are the two real main companies left. Ati does both, build and sell copyright. Nvidia only produces technology and sells the rights to use it. I really don't think they have fully recovered from the 3Dfx days.

Felix


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