I didnt join him the first time I walked by and now he wont speak, is there any way or no?

<font color="lawngreen" face="trebuchet MS"> If he wont talk to you at all then you probably wont be able to get him to join without cheating.... but if he wont talk to you at all its probably a bug :(

and welcome [img]graemlins/wavey.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/happywave.gif[/img] </font>

<font color="lightblue">If it says "he has nothing to say to you", then forget it... if he just won`t speak to you (no message), rest and try again. </font>

but I mean am I screwed in that he's done for the rest of the game, or will resting, comeing back in a few days/weeks change his state...seems kind of silly to have him pissed and not join over nothing

Its very posible I am wrong, but I thought if you talked to Jan, and then didn't want him to join, that he would go to his house in the Slums.

Like I said, I could be totally wrong, Im not a big fan of Jan.

<font color="lawngreen" face="trebuchet MS"> If he is in that state he will stay like that for the rest of the game. If you have ToB you will be able to summon him and everything should be alright [img]smile.gif[/img] , but if you dont have ToB then you have the option to cheat (ctrl-q) or just forget him.... first try resting as lennon suggested but if that doesnt work then you will only have the other 2 options :( .

And yes Seraph he usually does go back to his house.. but from what Slacker said I think he is staying in the government district but just not talking to him when he tries to speak with Jan :( </font>

Ian should do the following:
- He should try to sell you you turpins.
- Then a town guard should appear and accuse Ian for not paying tax. You should be taken as a vitness. Now, you have two opportunities, you can say:
a) "Yes, he tried to sell me something" - Ian will not join.
b) "No we talked about weather all the time" - Ian will offer to join you when you approach him.
Therefore:
- Has Ian tried to sell you turpins?
- Have you spoken with the guard and what have you told him?

I had the annoying lil fart arrested [img]smile.gif[/img]

There is a problem with WinXP (and NT?) that makes you unable to talk to some NPCs. It happened to me with Lord Firkraag. Then I installed the newest official patch and everything was in order.
Check Dundee's thread for link.

its definitiley not an xp prob, im on win 98. Basically I had my party and was walking by him with no intentino of picking him up till after I finished Keldorn quest, he stopped me said something (I think something about having tons of goods to sell) and basically I picked the last option, which is usually along the lines of "not interested now" or somethign to that effect, I really dont recall the conversatoin exactly but now he just has nothing to say. I did play out the whole turnip/arrest thing awhile ago just to see, reloaded right after so I knew he was going to ask me to buy turnips, I just didnt expect that saying no would piss him off.