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I voted optional after 15, so say senior, or year 11 and 12 it should be optional. That's the way it was at my school, and I think it was a good system. I think by that time people would have learnt the basics and have an idea whether they are good at it, and are mature enough to choose whether they will need it for future study etc. It does annoy me when people complain about things you learn in school being useless - what would you learn instead, Beau? History? English? Woodwork? What exactly would you have them teach that is so much more useful than maths? I find it sad that people can't see the value of maths, and I think it's partially the way it's taught, just formulae and problems instead of giving the bigger picture and how formula are derived etc. But also I think many students are just too impatient and don't like school fullstop so can't see that maths is very useful and necessary knowledge to have.
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