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Originally Posted by Chewbacca
I know you like to pound on the strawmen and play the semantics game, but humans are the only true polluters. Technically one may say a volcano causes pollution, but it is not a polluter in the sense that it is not a rational actor. A volcano can no more intend to pollute than it can pollute in error. Humans can and have done both.
Excess CO2 in the ocean and atmosphere has been demonstrated to be harmful to the enviroment AKA the dictionary definition of pollution. If you'd like to call someone an ass about it take it up with science.
WHoo Hoo, I made my saving throw VS dictionary attack!
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Ahhh now we get to the meat of the matter INTENT.... Some how you think humans intend to polute and that anyone who polutes does so with intent. So it's the fact that man can think and have intention that bothers you? Well I can see that, coming from you.
You say excess CO2 in the ocean and atmosphere has been shown to be harmful... where how much is excess? by what authroity do they have to declare how much is escess. Excess oxygen would also fall under any standards you can give, as would excess cold, heat, iron, copper, salt, buggers... you name it... now show where the amount is in excess and can't be handled by nature? I await the experiments of the two greehouses...
oh 'careful about declaring your won the saving thouw TL gets upset... it bugs him... oh wait not when it is somebody on his side I forgot..... never mind