Thanks for the replies and thanks for your welcome six of spades
I checked out your cool site. Loads of work done on that and it's very informative and good to read [img]smile.gif[/img]
You mention how you made that mage/thief where you altered elves lowest charisma levels to make him ugly. In my game I have altered all the stats for the existing races permanently. I felt Elves should have 20 dex and 19 wisdom aswell as 19 int, but I lowered their con to 16 and str to 17.