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Old 11-22-2002, 11:49 PM   #28
Imrahil
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Join Date: November 4, 2001
Location: North Carolina, USA
Posts: 469
Heh - I started this to be a multi-classing discussion, but if we're gonna get into 2nd vs 3rd editions, I'll jump back in...

I liked the bludgeoning Clerics better, although I was all in favor of certain deities (e.g. Tempus) allowing edged weapons while sacrificing something else (Turn Undead, for instance). They "balanced it out" by giving Fighters more Feats I guess. OTOH, I like that any class can learn (basically) any Feat - a Wizard with a Sword, for instance.

Race-Class restrictions - I'm kinda glad they're gone, but maybe there should be penalties. Yes, you can have a Dwarven Mage, but maybe he should get a -10% XP penalty (that's how I generally handled it when DM'ing). Perhaps there should be an XP penalty if your Prime Requisite is too low or something.

Overall, 3rd Edition seems a bit "watered down" to me, almost a step back towards Basic, just in the over-simplification.

Multi-classing - ah, the original topic - I'd be fine if Humans could use 3rd Edition rules & non-humans could use 2nd or 3rd. I like a good old Elven Fighter/Mage or Gnome Illusionist/Thief. OTOH, if you want to run a demi-human (hey, where'd that term go, by the way? PC D&D?) by human, i.e 3rd Ed., rules, I'd be all for that. One or the other, of course, at character creation (not really viable for a CRPG, obviously).

Kits - I miss Kits.

Spells - a bit of an improvement in 3rd Ed, IMO. I like that a particular spell takes Wiz X / Cle X +2 to be available, for example (also like the deity specific spells). I just wish the IWD manual was layed out better. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Variable XP - I'm only familiar with 3rd Ed through CRPG's, so if monster XP varies by level in the P&P version, that would totally suck, as it does here (IMO, monster X should be worth XP Y - if you are high enough level that monster X is no challenge, then XP Y should be insignificant to you - no adjustment needed).

AC - OK, I admit, the (Basic/1st/) 2nd Ed system was counter-intuitive & the 3rd Ed system is better, but it's still a tough adjustment. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Difficulty Checks - I understand the need for them & they're a good idea & were somewhat implemented in 2nd Ed, but... whew! I'm glad the computer is handling them - I'd hate to have to DM all of them!

Skills & Feats - Skills I like for the most part (though Fighters seem limited to Intimidate +1/level), Feats not so much. Maybe if they awarded Feats more frequently (it just seems to me that my 18th level Wizard should have WAY more Feats than she actually does - does she really have to hit lvl 30 to have the majority of the good ones?!?) I might like it more.

Rolling Stats - I don't like it. Plain & simple. Is the P&P game now set up this way? Maybe let the bonus points be random at least - I don't like the fact that all characters (well, OK, some races are at +/-2) start off with the same total points. OTOH, I do like the +1 attribute every 4 levels. That seems like a good idea.

OK, that's all I can think of riht now... [img]smile.gif[/img]

- Imrahil
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