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WOLFGIR · 12-15-2000, 04:35 AM

Hey I´m almost sorry for you.. So many postings and so few answers..
Well I will in my limited English try to make a good posting for you..
Since I enjoy the heat of battle, swinging swords, aiming true with arrows, I have had something against mages, but I have after Icewind dale and BG2 reevaluated my position and are more than ever stuck in my other reasonings about might and magic, you need both.. Examples.

Fast enemies: Fast and quick enemies, archers and the like can render a mage to a pincushion before the mage can throw a magic missile wich in turn seldom kill an opponent.. Thieves that backstab you, you can´t go around casting true sight, glitterdust. all the time.. The mage need a fighter or tough guy to take the bashing and the fighter need the mage to decimate the targets and to fight magics. A fighter can handle alot of situations I have found out, probably thoose who play mages have found out similar ways to use mages, and thats what is really good about these debates! A mage have some problems when you get surrounded, suprise attacks when their positioning in battle is close up not from a distance.
A fighter is good at most ranges and espacially good close in. However a fighter is vulnerable to charm, fear and such spels which can make the the biggest threat for their own group..
Together however they make an excellent team hard to beat.
I couldn´t have cleared the mindflayer dungeon without a mag, not as easy as I did it. Cloudkill, close the doors, wait, open door cloudkill, close door, ruch attack and arrow barrage and swoops, no enemies..

I couldn´t have done without fighters in the underdark when a Drow warparty surrounded my party, hadn´t mins been taking up the rear, my mage and cleric woul have beeen in serious trouble, my main character and Keldorn finished the front threat really easy, dualwielding fighter with Celestial fury, Blade of the rose..
Then turned and openend up with distance weapons.

My point: Fighters and Mages need each other, you can make it without the other, but you won´t be that healthy afterwards, a mage have to sleep after a long battle in order to gain moe spells. A long battle or a very hostile environment.. He, you need that guy bashing your enemies to smithereens..
And even a healthy fighter need the mage to dispel evil magic and to dispel protections in order to kill that evil mage or lich..

12-15-2000, 04:35 AM	#12
WOLFGIR Bastet - Egyptian Cat Goddess Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Sweden Age: 51 Posts: 3,450	Hey I´m almost sorry for you.. So many postings and so few answers.. Well I will in my limited English try to make a good posting for you.. Since I enjoy the heat of battle, swinging swords, aiming true with arrows, I have had something against mages, but I have after Icewind dale and BG2 reevaluated my position and are more than ever stuck in my other reasonings about might and magic, you need both.. Examples. Fast enemies: Fast and quick enemies, archers and the like can render a mage to a pincushion before the mage can throw a magic missile wich in turn seldom kill an opponent.. Thieves that backstab you, you can´t go around casting true sight, glitterdust. all the time.. The mage need a fighter or tough guy to take the bashing and the fighter need the mage to decimate the targets and to fight magics. A fighter can handle alot of situations I have found out, probably thoose who play mages have found out similar ways to use mages, and thats what is really good about these debates! A mage have some problems when you get surrounded, suprise attacks when their positioning in battle is close up not from a distance. A fighter is good at most ranges and espacially good close in. However a fighter is vulnerable to charm, fear and such spels which can make the the biggest threat for their own group.. Together however they make an excellent team hard to beat. I couldn´t have cleared the mindflayer dungeon without a mag, not as easy as I did it. Cloudkill, close the doors, wait, open door cloudkill, close door, ruch attack and arrow barrage and swoops, no enemies.. I couldn´t have done without fighters in the underdark when a Drow warparty surrounded my party, hadn´t mins been taking up the rear, my mage and cleric woul have beeen in serious trouble, my main character and Keldorn finished the front threat really easy, dualwielding fighter with Celestial fury, Blade of the rose.. Then turned and openend up with distance weapons. My point: Fighters and Mages need each other, you can make it without the other, but you won´t be that healthy afterwards, a mage have to sleep after a long battle in order to gain moe spells. A long battle or a very hostile environment.. He, you need that guy bashing your enemies to smithereens.. And even a healthy fighter need the mage to dispel evil magic and to dispel protections in order to kill that evil mage or lich..