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ronan · 06-23-2002, 02:39 PM

Firstly, "Debate is always futile", I believe that is called having a closed mind. I wanted to encourage debate as much as possible with my post so that I could try and see what exactly appeals to some people so much and not to others. Please, debate is the heart of democracy and if you close your ears to the voice of others you close your mind.
Anything that anybody says here will not in any way provaracate me or cause friction. People have every right to say that I am a whatever-whatever and that I have entirely missed the point of the game however what I am trying to find out is what have I missed?
I love long, involving games. My favourite pc games are Deus Ex, the BG series and Civ3. I like a challenge, I expect pc games to make me think and that is why I buy them rather than console games.
In terms of ambition and scope I have nothing but admiration for Morrowind but I believe the mechanics of the game are flawed. Just like some of the other people who have posted I loved ESM for about a week but then I realised I was not using my brain. How can I develop empathy for my character when I can not interact with anyone else in the game world? How can I develop a personality when I can only use one word at a time?
This game ruins all sense of immersion for me with it's annoying flaws. I get along very well with my local pub landlord, I have known him for twenty years since I was a young child but a pint of beer in his pub still costs the same as a pint of beer next door no matter how many times I tell him how nice his eyes are. Yes I can see the point of a small element of price differences according to attitude but a differential of 10x is, IMO, ridiculous.
This is just one of the situations which grate on me and stop me from really getting into this game.
Just one more example, I meet an orc who confesses a crime to me, a stranger, and asks me to take a note to his accomplice. I return to the nearest town to report this crime to the guard, nothing doing. No way of veering of the path of passing the note on to the accomplice and returning to receive my award, a diamond. Surely in a game with ambitions of frre-form play I should at least be able to report a crime to the guards.
Please continue to give me your opinions as I really feel I may be persuaded to give it another go if you guys think it is worth it.

06-23-2002, 02:39 PM	#15
ronan The Magister Join Date: November 13, 2001 Location: London Posts: 126	Firstly, "Debate is always futile", I believe that is called having a closed mind. I wanted to encourage debate as much as possible with my post so that I could try and see what exactly appeals to some people so much and not to others. Please, debate is the heart of democracy and if you close your ears to the voice of others you close your mind. Anything that anybody says here will not in any way provaracate me or cause friction. People have every right to say that I am a whatever-whatever and that I have entirely missed the point of the game however what I am trying to find out is what have I missed? I love long, involving games. My favourite pc games are Deus Ex, the BG series and Civ3. I like a challenge, I expect pc games to make me think and that is why I buy them rather than console games. In terms of ambition and scope I have nothing but admiration for Morrowind but I believe the mechanics of the game are flawed. Just like some of the other people who have posted I loved ESM for about a week but then I realised I was not using my brain. How can I develop empathy for my character when I can not interact with anyone else in the game world? How can I develop a personality when I can only use one word at a time? This game ruins all sense of immersion for me with it's annoying flaws. I get along very well with my local pub landlord, I have known him for twenty years since I was a young child but a pint of beer in his pub still costs the same as a pint of beer next door no matter how many times I tell him how nice his eyes are. Yes I can see the point of a small element of price differences according to attitude but a differential of 10x is, IMO, ridiculous. This is just one of the situations which grate on me and stop me from really getting into this game. Just one more example, I meet an orc who confesses a crime to me, a stranger, and asks me to take a note to his accomplice. I return to the nearest town to report this crime to the guard, nothing doing. No way of veering of the path of passing the note on to the accomplice and returning to receive my award, a diamond. Surely in a game with ambitions of frre-form play I should at least be able to report a crime to the guards. Please continue to give me your opinions as I really feel I may be persuaded to give it another go if you guys think it is worth it. __________________ \" So I kicked him in the head \'til he was dead!\"