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Yeah, I personally think Umbra is WAY tougher than most of the others, including the clown who has Chrysamere [though I may be thinking of the guy with the lords mail-- which one is 'under' ebonhart?].
The 'Her Hand' ordinators were as tough or tougher, as are the Gods, of course, but other than that, can't think of any much worse than Umbra.
Never occured to me to use a jinkblade, though, and for some reson jumping/flying above him didn't seem fair, since he wanted to die in a fair fight. I did summon a golden saint once, he killed it awfully fast, though.
So CONGRATS Avie, well done!
Oru
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