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Originally posted by 250:
I am not christian, and I know little
why is there a God? why does he create the world? why does he care? he creates human just so that humans can suffer, moan, progress and accept his love? why does he care? If he is so mighty, surely there is no reason for him to create us? and why and what does it mean that he loves us? we could never existed, and it wouldn't matter to anyone because he is the God
right? anyone explain this to me? Yorick? Larry?
[This message has been edited by 250 (edited 09-08-2001).]
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Well 250, I am a Christian as well, but I have many questions that are always in my head much like yours. Why would God create us? Well, to figure that out, you have to think, were we created and existing already before we were born on this Earth? I have an inkling that we may have existed before we were born. And that we were put on this Earth to learn certain lessons to perfect ourselves. Sometimes these lessons may seem unfair or harsh, but if you look closely, there ARE things that are gained even from the direst of circumstances. For instance, say, you are a spirit, not born yet, and you had this ONE flaw. Say this flaw was being power hungry, thinking you can rise above others and lead things your way, not caring about others who may be weaker, for whatever reason that may be. Well, say God decided to have you be born onto the Earth as a cripple. Or maybe you would be OK until later in life, wherein you fall off a ladder or something and become a parapellegic (sp?). Well what would happen to you then? I think that in time, being unable to move, and having absolutely NO power, relying on others to help you with the simplist tasks, would change you. Power would eventually mean NOTHING to you, respect and gratefulness for others that helped you would be the dominant feeling, e.g. your lesson would be learned. I could use SOOO many other examples on this particular concept, this is merely One. Again, who knows if I am right or wrong, just a pondering thought that I have always had when I think of why some horrible things happen to people, when God is supposed to be so loving. I try to think of reasons, and that is what I came up with, so far.
As for how we came to exist as spirits even BEFORE we were born on this Earth, or even now GOD came to exist, is something I think that is beyond our comprehension as mere humans.
On another note, when you say "Why does God love us"?, well, I have wondered that myself over many years. Still don't know why, but I one day unexpectedly thought about what it must be like if you were God believe it or not. One day I came home from work, and was surfing the cable TV channels (I know this sounds lame, but...). Anyway, came across this Tom Sawyer story, being played out in Claymation. Now, to be honest, I HATE claymation, creeps me out man!! God I can't stand to watch even a second of it! But I turned it on and was doing exercises, and just at the time didn't want to stop to change the channel. So I listened and watched this thing. When I tuned in, it was at this part where Tom Sawyer was standing there talking to the Devil. The Devil said, "Here, look at my power, I can create people" and he waved his hand and there was this little miniature tiny town, with buildings and tiny people wandering around. They were all smiling and friendly towards eachother. Well, Tom Sawyer was just so enamoured of these little people, smiling and watching them, as you, the viewer, were also doing. Then the Devil said "here, I can add more" and zapped in this cow in the middle of the people. Well, at first, the people all looked at the cow in amazement and wonder and happiness, smiling from ear to ear and squeaking happily about it. THEN... Things changed... One person grabbed the cow and started pulling it to the left, as if to take it for himself. Then another one on the right of the cow also started pulling with the same intent. Then the two started arguing, and their ugly claymation faces took on a hideous evil look. Next thing you know, the whole crowd of little miniature people are fighting over this cow, and pulling it and pulling it this way and that until they actually ended up killing the cow, splitting it in half. At that point, the Devil frowns in a very exaggerated fashion at these people for what they did, pissed him off apparently, as his gift ended up destroyed in greed. So then he looks at Tom Sawyer, and makes a hideous grin, and slams his huge fist on top of all the little miniature people, thus destroying them all. He then looks at Tom Sawyer and says something like "No worries, I can always make more, no loss."
Makes you think that God could do the same thing. Imagine creating a species, in love, and watching them fight eachother and hate eachother, if it was me I would do the same thing! I would say "these people are hopeless", start over... But God does not do that, so he MUST love us, and thinks that we are worth keeping, that we can still grow and learn. Maybe someday things will change, just takes time with us humans is all. All I know, with what we have done as humans as a whole, makes me feel again, like God must love us, as we (again as a Whole here as humans all over the world) must seem very dissappointing.
Anyway, funny, cause that stupid claymation actually made me think what it was like to be God in some ways, which I always thought a blasphemous thing. But if you think about it, how would you react if it was you? Lucky we are I say, God loves us, and we should try to strive to make him proud, as we would be nothing without him. The fact that the Devil was involved in this particular film is irrelevant, as it made me think of God, and the power of creating life, and death, and what that must be like. Want to make that plain, as I do not want anyone to flame me thinking I got some thing about the devil (you never know what reaction you will get on this forum, so just playin it safe)
Anywho, that is my 2 cent token thrown into the pot
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