[Cerek the Barbaric]

Originally posted by Yorick: Perhaps Cerek, it would be prudent to get an idea what it is about before contributing. Regarding music theft, no I do not steal music. I have never owned or used Napster, Kazaa or any other filesharing software. Seeing as my livelihood has been shafted by music thiefs actions, I think I have every right to be fed up and foaming at the mouth when yet another ignorant criticism is levelled at my advocates doing their contractually bound duty, and working to protect mine and my peers copyright. As far as suspensions, I know of another Ironworks member who was suspended for unintentionally "stirring the pot", while remaining cool headed in the face of a barrage of personal insults. Why should we not see the same penalty applied here? Where were your protestations about stone throwing when that poster was suspended? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

First of all,Yorick, I didn't really need to "get an idea what the issue of this thread was about" before contributing. This certainly isn't the first time you've made a public outcry for the Mods to suspend or ban somebody because you personally didn't like what they said in a post or their sig. I also didn't know what "thread" you were referring to in your opening post - but a quick perusal of the thread titles made it pretty easy to figure out which one had put a burr under your saddle this time.

I understand that you don't like filesharing. I happen to disagree with you and the recording industry regarding this, but that isn't the point here.

I read over the other thread in question and I agree with the majority. While it may have been bad form or poor etiquette of Whackmeister to delete the original thread, I think it was an honost mistake on his part. He doesn't venture to C.E. very often, and when things apparantly became heated, I guess he felt it was best to simply remove the offending material altogether. I believe his mistake has been sufficiently pointed out to him by you and the others in the 2nd thread.

But in regards to this thread, my first post the edited version of my original thoughts and comments - although I knew you wouldn't accept the advice given. Since the subtle approach didn't work, allow me to be more to the point (even though it won't be any more effective).

To be perfectly blunt, Yorick, you are the LAST member on this forum that should be making a PUBLIC OUTCRY for the Mods to suspend or ban a member for flamebaiting. You have a proven track record of becoming increasingly insulting in a thread when people refuse to accept your point of view. In the past months you have been extremely insulting to certain members on different topics. From an outright refusal on your part to allow smoking bar patron the right to "light up" inside even a small fraction of bars in NY to demanding that Mormons STOP calling themselves Christians because their theology didn't fit your specific definition of the term to the incident I assume you are referring to where you and another member continued to hurl personal insults at each other despite repeated warnings from at least two different Moderators.

And - as I said before - this isn't the first time you've made a separate thread for the sole purpose of demanding the Mods suspend or ban somebody that said something that upset you - although other people weren't nearly as offended by the same remarks.

Since you like to quote the TOS, how about this one.....

Be Nice: No posting of material that antagonizes, harasses or creates hostility toward another user or group of. If you are angry with someone in the forum, take it up with him/her through private channels like e-mail or ICQ.

If you don't like what Whackmeister said in his sig, you should have taken it up with him privately. Instead, you called for him to be suspended or banned at least 2-3 times in the thread itself. When the Moderators didn't comply with your wishes (which should be a clue that they don't agree there is sufficient cause for a suspension), you then create a PUBLIC and SEPARATE thread demanding they take action. In effect, you are "calling the Mods out" - all because you alone are personally offended by certain remarks made by a member.

To be quite honost, Yorick, this type of behavior makes you look like a big cry baby. You post very emotional and inflammatory comments agaisnt those you disagree with. You let your emotions get the best of you and become personally insulting in your remarks towards members. THEN, when you also demand the Mods take action against the person you feel offended by. When they don't, you run and "tattle" by making a public thread in an effort to force them into action.

As I tried to imply through subtelty in my first post, you have been just as guilty of flamebaiting as any other member here, and the Mods have been very lenient in the past...giving you repeated warnings before finally being forced to take action after you continually ignored those warnings.

The best advice I can give you is to let this issue go and move on.