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Originally posted by Illumina Drathiran'ar:
Sorry, Morgan, but if you'll excuse me I won't look at it from a religious standpoint when arguing law. That's not how our country works. And I can't go into detail due to the ban, but know this: There's more to Sodom and Gomorrah than homosexuality. There were more reasons there.
As for your "natural" argument... If it's not natural to homosexuals to be attracted to men, are you suggesting they chose to be the way they are? Because that would be really stupid on their part. To pick a life of condemnation and ignorance and all.
Besides, your argument falls apart when looking at the documentated cases of homosexuality in nature. I have a lovely article on the subject... When I find it I'll post it.
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First of all, our forfathers would have made this law had they known what would have come of it had they not.
Second of all, our country was founded on christianic ideals. I'm not a christian but I know that our forfathers were and it states IN the bible "man shall not lay with man" or something to that effect.
Our constitution is raped on a grand scale by those claiming their "constitutional rights". Laws are there yes, but there is an INTENT to the law. If you are speeding because you are in a hurry for nothing important, you will get a ticket. If you are speeding because your wife is in labor, or your kid busted his head open, or your daughter lost her finger and you are trying to get to the hospital, 9 times out of 10 the police will turn on the sirens and give you an escort (trust me).
The INTENT of a law is there for safety, but most of them aren't supposed to be followed blindly. There is an INTENT to the constitution. It is to give freedom and equality, this is true. I DO believe that alot of people choose to be the way they are. Its "trendy" in America to be gay nowadays. Everyone knows this, and now its running rampant. States like Hawaii, Oregon, and Nevada are breeding grounds. These liberal states allow these things because they can find a "crack" in the constitution.
Thirdly...I said the thing about animals in nature because they don't do it for REPRODUCTION, its confusion. It happens in captivety sure. If an animal is born and raised in captivet, it doesn't know better. A pride of lions generaly consists of one male and various females, all of which "belong" to the male of the group. NATURE all goes back to the sperm and egg theory.
Now as far as those who cannot concieve...I never said they have to be fertile, just that its NATURAL for males/females to be with each other. I'm sorry if my non-liberal views seem to cloud the issue of "acceptance" but I'm a realist. Two men can't have children together, thus its not supposed to be.
Slightly graphic ahead...kids beware...or those with weak stomachs
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you show me a vagina that fits into another and a penis that fits into another. It doesn't work. A penis is made for the specific purpose of going into a vagina and depositing sperm. Females natural lubricant is produced to make this process easier. Humans and dolphins are the only two mammals who have sexual relations for the sake of "fun". Some choose to be unnatural about it. Like I said, I have friends and aquintances that are gay, and they know and respect my views...and concied some of my points mind you. Their response is "Its my choice, and I'm happy with it". See that, "my CHOICE".
Sorry, but im a Taurus, I'm stubborn. I'm open minded however. If you show me evidence that its supposed to be, I'll accept it. I need to find the scientific data showing that its imposible to be a genetic or physiological makeup that makes people gay... because of the pheramone issue. Bah, I could go on all day and I'm probably gonna be in trouble with the mods as is, heh. Again, I'm sorry to offend anyone but these are my views.
[ 10-02-2004, 12:30 PM: Message edited by: Morgan_Corbesant ]