Baaz Draconian 
Join Date: June 17, 2002
Location: NY
Age: 38
Posts: 723
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If I can find the Detroit Free Press article, well, there was the case of an attacker having the initiative, with a gun, and the victim still came out on top. Remember, these aren't very bright guys. Generally if you had a room with about two dozen of them, you'll find the ash tray provides not only more engaging conversation, but higher scores on IQ tests...
Also, look up Florida's post-CCW legislation rates Re: person-to-person violent crime, it's gone down since the law has passed, I'm not going to say it's brought it down, but it may have...John Stossel thinks so. It would seem that, before any shots were even fired, the mere threat of it has done some good. Fellow citizens feel safer around one another, because they know (or at least feel) that they're watching out for eachother. Kinda leaves a warm fuzzy feeling in your stomache, doesn't it? Don't worry, I have a large bottle of Tums for that, you really shouldn't have done the watered mustard thing...
I'm not saying learning unarmed combat, diplomatic and nonviolent survival techniques are bad, or a waste of time. I'm saying that, there are certain situations where you'll need a gun, and not have one, and you'll be in a real bad way at that moment.
The thing is, the majority of murders are not comitted with firearms, but with knives, hands, feet, or hand tools even. One case years back where a guy was beaten to death with a fire hose. The thing is though, the number of stabbing assaults that turn into murders because the victim just so happened to die from multiple stab wounds, per the number of overall crimes, is much much much greater than with firearms. To say the least, blasting a victim with a .45 is never a sure bet, stabbing them in the throat is...You'd be surprised the gunshot wounds they've treated, along with the knife wounds, one fellow was lucky the blade of the knife actually fell perfectly between the hemispheres of his brain, and caused only minimal damage.
Footnotes:
Rifles are far deadlier than pistols, especially hunting rifles, which can successfully take down a man at about 1000 meters.
Firearms accidents in places with CCW (right to carry or shall issue, if you're curious, I can roughly explain those in greater depth) are either not higher, or are in miniscule quantities so. 1 or 2 more accidents a year than beforehand.
Logically, gun control won't stop criminals from possessing firearms. Firearms are made on (very precisely tuned) common industrial machinery, with little disparity from other fine tuning precision parts. If you live in an industrial area with a total gun ban, and there are still gun crimes, chances are pretty good one of those big buildings in the distance house a set of machine tools that are currently, as you see the building, making firearms. They might even be turning down ammunition as well. How hard, really, would it be to hide a miller, lathe and stamper in a precision metallic parts plant?
We don't allow people to drive while inebriated, and from a legal standpoint, someone drunk does not have capacity, and is for that time not a functional citizen...I'll let you run with the implications.
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