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Old 04-09-2005, 10:22 PM   #8
John D Harris
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Join Date: March 27, 2001
Location: Northport,Alabama, USA
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Originally posted by pritchke:
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Originally posted by John D Harris:
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Originally posted by shamrock_uk:
[qb] Here's a reality of life "you rarely get what you think you deserve, but you ALWAYS deserve what you get."
So, if some criminal goes up and shoots your kid in the head and kills them both you and your kid deserved it. Sure if you say so!!! I personally don't think life is as simple as that and many people don't deserve the injustices being done onto them. So by this philosophy you support guys like Saddam, and what's his name in Africa after all those people who were butchered deserved what they got. I really doubt you believe those words.
No where is there any support for anything in the quote of mine, It is fact, nothing more nothing less. I am walking around with 2 crushed vertibre because somebody changed lanes taged the front of the car my friend was driving and we spun out of control and rolled the car several times. Now it would not have happened if I had taken as little as 5 seconds longer in the bathroom at the bar, if I had stopped and looked in the mirror and primped my hair, but then again I not the kind of person that gives a rat's rear-end about the superfical. I made the choice to get in the car several times that night, along with many other choices that night that would have changed the outcome, if I had made the choices differant.

Now as for those people deserving what they got: Did they not have feet to leave on? Did they not make the choice to leave or stay? If they stayed and got killed they got what they deserved, if they left and were killed they got what they deserved. If they stayed and lived they got what they deserved, if they left and lived they got what they deserved. Since you what to bring up a one sided example, try this one somebody makes a choice that puts them on a skyscraper and they fall off do to their choices made, splattering on the concret sidewalk below. They made the choice to take the risk they got what they deserved. Somebody else gets on the same skyscraper makes the same choices but lives they got what they deserved. Obviously they are better at climbing sky scrapers.

The muderer analogy is flawed and intentionaly one sided, a in true comparison to what happened in Iraq. The proper analogy would be: I see a killing comitted in a back alley the killer points his gun at me and my kid tells me to leave, gives us the chance to leave, but instead I stay there. Then my kid and I get shot and killed so yes I would have gotten what I deserved.

Here's another one for you "You can let Life live you or you can live life."
I don't believe or accept this Fate crap. I control my life, I am the master of my fate and the captain of my ship.

Having wrote all of that: This is the most important part and if you miss it you miss everthing. Getting what you deserve in life is not a moral judgement, any more then any other law of nature like gravity is a moral judgement. Cause and effect have NOTHING to do with right or wrong, they have to do with cause and effect. Once you understand that then you are free to make the choices of right and wrong and will have what it takes to accept the effects of your causes.

[ 04-09-2005, 10:28 PM: Message edited by: John D Harris ]
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