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Originally posted by MagiK:
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Originally posted by norompanlasolas:
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[qb] eehrmmm... can you say nicaragua? can you say chile? can you say argentina? can you say kissinger?
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Last I looked all those countries still exist, what is the point about them? what exacttly is wrong there that is all because of the USA and Kissenger...what did he do to them?
I will grant you that the USA helped the UK kick the crap out of Argentina in the little Falklands thing but we are allies and it was to be expected.
Lets see Argentina...isn't that another name for "old Nazi Retiment Community"?
Are you arguing that the US should have no involvement anywhere but within its own borders? No matter what the "global" implications?
You do recall that at the time there was a major conflict going on (while Kissenger was relevant I mean) called the cold war, yeah both the superpowers did some rotten things but, at the time there was a real threat of Global Nuclear Warfare which would have extinguisehed every life on the planet...I say give the guy a break. I also do not recall the UN calling for Kissengers arrest...if he was so horrible how come no one is calling for his head? Will he be hauled in front of the world court?
All honest questions up there. Looking forward to the responses.
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ok, ill try to explain... in chile there was a coup d'etat against legitimate president salvador allende by the right wing military lead by pinochet, endorsed, supported and encouraged by the us "intelligentzia" lead by none other than henry kissinger. 20,000 people dissapeared in chile and were hunted and killed for their political beliefs. and i repeat, it was a legitimate ellected democratic government.
in argentina more of the same. democratic elected peronist govt was overthrowed by the military and more than 30,000 were killed until 1982, when thanks to the defeat in the malvinas war, the military lost all power and had to concede the govt. and by the way, regarding the malvinas war and england "kicking the crap out". let me tell you a few facts. a completely unprepared argentinian militia went to occupy the island and nevertheless managed to sink several english ships, resist in the ground and, according to a recent books by key commanders of the british military, they (the english) would have defeated if it werent for 3 facts: the us support in regards of intelligence, the sinking of the ship "general belgrano" killing 2,000 sailors approved by thatcher, a coward and unlawful act since it was well outside the war zone and not participating in it (war has rules, amazingly), and that in the end the argentinian leadership and people wanted out of there because of the desprestige (sp?) the govt had. check out those books, they are pretty much saying that if the war had continued for a couple more weeks, the english would have had to turn back. not talking of patritism here, just plain facts.
and if kissinger was croatian or serb or irakian he would have charged with war crimes and would be in the hague facing the court right now. you say that the un hasnt called for kissingers arrest, thats a pretty naive point of view considering that the us is part of the security council. so the chinese have not committed war crimes because none of their generals or top commands have not been arrested? or the russians? yeah right.
and regarding the nazi retirement community jab. argentina did welcome a fair share of nazis. but so did the us and russia, that fought fiercely between them in recruiting their finest scientists and "brains". the only difference is that it received less publicity.