Mass Invisibility, not really Improved Invisibility?

Rataxes · 03-21-2003, 11:52 AM

The thing acts like it cast Imp Invisibility on everyone affected, but I've never noticed the +4 AC Bonus that Imp Invisibility gives you and that Mass Invisibility is supposed to give you. I get the improved Saves and normal mages can't target me, but the AC bonus being left out puzzles me...

Alson · 03-23-2003, 08:18 AM

Um... that's weird. The +4 AC bonus is always there in my game. [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img]

karlosovic · 03-24-2003, 07:51 AM

what on earth is imp invis meant to do anyway ? whenever I attack after using it my character just goes visable and starts getting hit. another one that's never seemed to work very well is the cloak of non-detection. what is it meant to do for me ?

Mahlennacht · 03-25-2003, 01:09 AM

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Originally posted by karlosovic:
what on earth is imp invis meant to do anyway ? whenever I attack after using it my character just goes visable and starts getting hit. another one that's never seemed to work very well is the cloak of non-detection. what is it meant to do for me ?

I think the main advantage to ImpInvis is that your enemies get -4 to attack, and you get +4 to saves; so even though the enemies seem to *see* you, the roll adjustments should be some consolation...

And yah, you know I've tried that cloak of non-detection a bunch of times and I think it's useless in the game because most of the time the enemies use True Sight, which seems to cut through ANY type of concealment, OR the enemies can see anything invisible anyway, so I feel the cloak is not really worth carrying except for the GP

pcgiant · 03-25-2003, 01:17 AM

Improved Invisibility makes you invisible...

so you can sneak past tough opponents or sneak attack them. The bonus to saves and AC is an added bonus.

Desuma Malevois · 03-25-2003, 01:21 AM

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Originally posted by Mahlennacht:
And yah, you know I've tried that cloak of non-detection a bunch of times and I think it's useless in the game because most of the time the enemies use True Sight, which seems to cut through ANY type of concealment, OR the enemies can see anything invisible anyway, so I feel the cloak is not really worth carrying except for the GP

I can confirm that the cloak does work for thieves using "hide in shadows" against True Sight. I've read, though, that it doesn't work like it's supposed to for anything else.

[ 03-25-2003, 01:26 AM: Message edited by: Desuma Malevois ]

Desuma Malevois · 03-25-2003, 01:25 AM

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Originally posted by karlosovic:
what on earth is imp invis meant to do anyway ? whenever I attack after using it my character just goes visable and starts getting hit. another one that's never seemed to work very well is the cloak of non-detection. what is it meant to do for me ?

But you shouldn't be targeted by missile weapons or spells until the Imp. Inv. goes down, so the spell is very good for an archer or spellcaster who strikes from a distance.

Dundee Slaytern · 03-25-2003, 06:48 AM

Cloak of Non-Detection does work. What is important is that you do not break the invisibility yourself.

When you use Improved Invisibility, you are invisible at first, but the moment you do something hostile, you become shimmered, not invisible.

daan · 03-25-2003, 08:09 AM

The improved guarded compound has the only mage I ever encountered that could break through the cloack of non-detection. I had the cloack on .. didnt do a thing, but gulp invisibility potions or run away and hide in shadows.
Though every time I ran back into the true-sight range the invisibility was immediatly dispelled.
Pretty sure this didnt happen any other time, if true-sight was cast

Alson · 03-25-2003, 08:19 AM

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Originally posted by daan:
The improved guarded compound has the only mage I ever encountered that could break through the cloack of non-detection. I had the cloack on .. didnt do a thing, but gulp invisibility potions or run away and hide in shadows.
Though every time I ran back into the true-sight range the invisibility was immediatly dispelled. Pretty sure this didnt happen any other time, if true-sight was cast

Mysterious! Did Sion casted the spells on you directly, or via a Chain Contingency?

03-21-2003, 11:52 AM	#1
Rataxes Symbol of Cyric Join Date: November 17, 2002 Location: Sweden Age: 38 Posts: 1,359	The thing acts like it cast Imp Invisibility on everyone affected, but I've never noticed the +4 AC Bonus that Imp Invisibility gives you and that Mass Invisibility is supposed to give you. I get the improved Saves and normal mages can't target me, but the AC bonus being left out puzzles me... __________________ [img]\"http://atlas.walagata.com/w/rataxes/ymca3.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />I want <b>YOU!</b>

03-23-2003, 08:18 AM	#2
Alson Galvatron Join Date: December 14, 2001 Location: Israel Age: 37 Posts: 2,187	Um... that's weird. The +4 AC bonus is always there in my game. [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img] __________________ In memory of Ilan Ramon - the first Israeli astronaut.<br /><br /><br />[url]\"http://members.chello.nl/~j.vanthull/BG2SR/Home.htm\" target=\"_blank\">BGII Spells Reference</a> - everything you ever wanted to know about spells!

03-24-2003, 07:51 AM	#3
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03-25-2003, 01:17 AM	#5
pcgiant Symbol of Cyric Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: NZ Age: 37 Posts: 1,268	Improved Invisibility makes you invisible... so you can sneak past tough opponents or sneak attack them. The bonus to saves and AC is an added bonus. __________________ If possible, I want to relive my life... not as a devil. This time, someone like you.

03-25-2003, 08:09 AM	#9
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 39 Posts: 1,644	The improved guarded compound has the only mage I ever encountered that could break through the cloack of non-detection. I had the cloack on .. didnt do a thing, but gulp invisibility potions or run away and hide in shadows. Though every time I ran back into the true-sight range the invisibility was immediatly dispelled. Pretty sure this didnt happen any other time, if true-sight was cast __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

03-25-2003, 06:48 AM	#8
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 11,063	Cloak of Non-Detection does work. What is important is that you do not break the invisibility yourself. When you use Improved Invisibility, you are invisible at first, but the moment you do something hostile, you become shimmered, not invisible.

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