How about this for an evil party?

Northraven · 06-12-2002, 06:19 PM

OK, I've decided to go through BG2 and ToB with an evil main character, which I've never done before. I just started out a few days ago and am into Chapter 2. I have just gathered all the NPC's together that I think will make up my party for most of the game. Here's what my group looks like:

1.PC NE Half-Elf Mage/Thief
2.Korgan
3.Anomen (I have already set him on the path to becoming CN...had him kill that guys daughter in cold-blood...heheh I am such an evil little Elf [img]smile.gif[/img]
4.Cernd Before anyone crucifies me for this choice let me just say that so far I have found his Werewolf form decent in melee and I think that some of the Druid spells rock...any constructive comments are welcome though
5.Viconia What needs be said...she's a little Drow hottie and really seems to Dig a greedy, power-hungry, mafioso like my main character
6.Edwin He's a jerk but also IMHO the only worthwhile NPC mage in the game.

Now when I get to ToB I am thinking of swapping someone out for Sarevok...I think either Cernd or Anomen anyone have a suggestion on who should go? Also, I considered Haer'Daelis in place of Cernd but figured that I would rather have the Druid spells over another second-rate arcane caster, I'm curious what any of you guys might think about that choice.

Please any comments/tips from people who have played through the whole game with any or all of these NPC'S would be welcome.

P.S. Am I the only one who thinks that the game designers gave little thought to providing evil choices/dialogue options and quests to players who choose to have a little fun and play as a bad guy?

Sir Goulum · 06-12-2002, 07:03 PM

TIP: Don't have Cernd. He is horrible!

Madman-Rogovich · 06-12-2002, 07:30 PM

yea man id evict Cernd get someone else in there Valygar isntexactly evil but is way kooler

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i am so sick of people telling me that you get Sarevok in your party in ToB man that would have been one hell of a surprise i get my copy in just under two weeks!!!

Willard · 06-12-2002, 07:33 PM

He does? Madman Rogovich, you just told me! Oh well, there can't be too many surprises in this world......

Edit- Oh yeah, don't stick with Cernd. He has a vary annoying quest, he sucks, he can't cast spells when he is a werewolf but is VERY vulnerable when he is not a werewolf. Go with Haer'Dalis or something. He is cool dual wielding the Blade of Roses and Blackrazor.....Very cool. [img]graemlins/blueblink.gif[/img]

[ 06-12-2002, 07:37 PM: Message edited by: Willard ]

Madman-Rogovich · 06-12-2002, 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by Willard:
He does? Madman Rogovich, you just told me! Oh well, there can't be too many surprises in this world......

Edit- Oh yeah, don't stick with Cernd. He has a vary annoying quest, he sucks, he can't cast spells when he is a werewolf but is VERY vulnerable when he is not a werewolf. Go with Haer'Dalis or something. He is cool dual wielding the Blade of Roses and Blackrazor.....Very cool. [img]graemlins/blueblink.gif[/img]

dude if you had read North raven' s initial post you would have noticed !

drewal · 06-12-2002, 08:24 PM

Keep Cernd until you find a flesh to stone trap.

I was working on an evil party, led by a CE Stormlord. The stronghold quest was very cool.

I know people always "say" there's a difference between being evil and being psychotic.

But oh well...

After a while, even at low levels, the cowled enforcers and amnish kinghts lose their intimidation factor.

After completing the quests in trademeet, and watching them erect my statue, I proceeded to slaughter every single living being in the town.

My advice, take

Edwin
Viconia
Korgan

...and leave it at that.

When you get bored with them, pick up an NPC, any NPC, abuse them for a while, and then "let" something terrible happen to them.

You're evil, so who needs a lot of friends anyways. Three companions is enough.

Helspanth · 06-12-2002, 08:32 PM

I would add Valygar to the party.
Drop either Anomen or Cernd.
Druid spells are interesting and so I suggest you drop Anomen since Viconia is also a cleric and she is a must in your evil party!

Wynne · 06-12-2002, 10:11 PM

Valygar? In an EVIL party? Please tell me you're kidding! *gawks* Sheesh! Just download Valen the CE fighter/thief!

http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~weimer/bgate/valen.html

Admittedly, you don't need another thief in your current game, but with all those traps and GWW in ToB it'll be sah-weet.

Sazerac · 06-12-2002, 11:22 PM

OR...

create 3 PC's of your own in multiplayer mode and then pick up Viconia, Edwin, and Korgan.

-Saz

SixOfSpades · 06-12-2002, 11:25 PM

I solved the "I don't want to be stuck with a party of 4" problem and the "There are no Evil Thieves" problem at the same time, by going Multiplayer. My Evil PC was a Cleric/Mage, and right after we finished Xzar's quest and found Montaron's body, I went Multiplayer and brought in an exact copy of Montaron. He kicks ass! Woohoooo!

06-12-2002, 06:19 PM	#1
Northraven Manshoon Join Date: July 13, 2001 Location: Currently a land called Weyrth... Age: 46 Posts: 195	OK, I've decided to go through BG2 and ToB with an evil main character, which I've never done before. I just started out a few days ago and am into Chapter 2. I have just gathered all the NPC's together that I think will make up my party for most of the game. Here's what my group looks like: 1.PC NE Half-Elf Mage/Thief 2.Korgan 3.Anomen (I have already set him on the path to becoming CN...had him kill that guys daughter in cold-blood...heheh I am such an evil little Elf [img]smile.gif[/img] 4.Cernd Before anyone crucifies me for this choice let me just say that so far I have found his Werewolf form decent in melee and I think that some of the Druid spells rock...any constructive comments are welcome though 5.Viconia What needs be said...she's a little Drow hottie and really seems to Dig a greedy, power-hungry, mafioso like my main character 6.Edwin He's a jerk but also IMHO the only worthwhile NPC mage in the game. Now when I get to ToB I am thinking of swapping someone out for Sarevok...I think either Cernd or Anomen anyone have a suggestion on who should go? Also, I considered Haer'Daelis in place of Cernd but figured that I would rather have the Druid spells over another second-rate arcane caster, I'm curious what any of you guys might think about that choice. Please any comments/tips from people who have played through the whole game with any or all of these NPC'S would be welcome. P.S. Am I the only one who thinks that the game designers gave little thought to providing evil choices/dialogue options and quests to players who choose to have a little fun and play as a bad guy? __________________ \"Before the world was bent but after the great contagion, there was a civilization built in the image of the First Age. It sought to emulate the splendor of the bygone Golden Age, but it was in all ways less. It was a time of sorcery and heroism, of fabulous wonders and treacherous betrayals. Ruled by a decadent empire, it slipped inch by inch into barbarism and darkness, until one last cataclysm blotted it out forever. Yet, in it\'s sunset, it was a splendid thing, and glorious were the deeds of the Exalted.\"<br /><br />[url]\"http://www.sloganizer.net/en/\" target=\"_blank\"> [img]\"http://www.sloganizer.net/en/style7,Severed-spc-Fist.png\" alt=\" - \" /></a>

06-12-2002, 07:30 PM	#3
Madman-Rogovich Lord Soth Join Date: October 23, 2001 Location: Edinburgh Age: 40 Posts: 1,918	yea man id evict Cernd get someone else in there Valygar isntexactly evil but is way kooler * * * SPOILER * * * * * * * * * * i am so sick of people telling me that you get Sarevok in your party in ToB man that would have been one hell of a surprise i get my copy in just under two weeks!!! __________________ One room, one axe, one outcome.

06-12-2002, 07:33 PM	#4
Willard Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: June 14, 2001 Location: Vermont Age: 34 Posts: 1,752	He does? Madman Rogovich, you just told me! Oh well, there can't be too many surprises in this world...... Edit- Oh yeah, don't stick with Cernd. He has a vary annoying quest, he sucks, he can't cast spells when he is a werewolf but is VERY vulnerable when he is not a werewolf. Go with Haer'Dalis or something. He is cool dual wielding the Blade of Roses and Blackrazor.....Very cool. [img]graemlins/blueblink.gif[/img] [ 06-12-2002, 07:37 PM: Message edited by: Willard ] __________________

06-12-2002, 08:24 PM	#6
drewal Drow Warrior Join Date: January 8, 2002 Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 47 Posts: 272	Keep Cernd until you find a flesh to stone trap. I was working on an evil party, led by a CE Stormlord. The stronghold quest was very cool. I know people always "say" there's a difference between being evil and being psychotic. But oh well... After a while, even at low levels, the cowled enforcers and amnish kinghts lose their intimidation factor. After completing the quests in trademeet, and watching them erect my statue, I proceeded to slaughter every single living being in the town. My advice, take Edwin Viconia Korgan ...and leave it at that. When you get bored with them, pick up an NPC, any NPC, abuse them for a while, and then "let" something terrible happen to them. You're evil, so who needs a lot of friends anyways. Three companions is enough. __________________ This is going to be a short trip...

06-12-2002, 08:32 PM	#7
Helspanth Quintesson Join Date: January 21, 2002 Location: Thessaloniki,Hellas Age: 44 Posts: 1,050	I would add Valygar to the party. Drop either Anomen or Cernd. Druid spells are interesting and so I suggest you drop Anomen since Viconia is also a cleric and she is a must in your evil party! __________________ \"Sorrow is the future tense of love\"

06-12-2002, 07:03 PM	#2
Sir Goulum John Locke Join Date: February 7, 2002 Location: Edmonton, Canada Age: 36 Posts: 8,985	TIP: Don't have Cernd. He is horrible!

06-12-2002, 10:11 PM	#8
Wynne Dungeon Master Join Date: May 30, 2002 Location: USA Age: 45 Posts: 85	Valygar? In an EVIL party? Please tell me you're kidding! gawks Sheesh! Just download Valen the CE fighter/thief! http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~weimer/bgate/valen.html Admittedly, you don't need another thief in your current game, but with all those traps and GWW in ToB it'll be sah-weet. __________________ <br />[url]\"http://forums.db-forge.com/forgottenwars/index.php?board=18\" target=\"_blank\">Rowan Romance/Friendship for BG2</a>

06-12-2002, 11:22 PM	#9
Sazerac Ironworks Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Monroe, LA Age: 61 Posts: 7,387	OR... create 3 PC's of your own in multiplayer mode and then pick up Viconia, Edwin, and Korgan. -Saz __________________ "And all my days are trances, and all my nightly dreams, Are where thy grey eye glances, and where thy footstep gleams, In what ethereal dances, by what eternal streams..."

06-12-2002, 11:25 PM	#10
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 48 Posts: 6,901	I solved the "I don't want to be stuck with a party of 4" problem and the "There are no Evil Thieves" problem at the same time, by going Multiplayer. My Evil PC was a Cleric/Mage, and right after we finished Xzar's quest and found Montaron's body, I went Multiplayer and brought in an exact copy of Montaron. He kicks ass! Woohoooo! __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

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