Monk ApR some advice would be nice

Faceman · 11-02-2003, 06:18 AM

I'm currently soloing a monk through BGT. If you want to read my story it's here
It's my first time as a monk so bear with me if I don't know some basics about his character developement.
I'm currently lvl6 which gives me 2ApR with my fists but I picked up a rather nice longsword recently (and I have * in Longswords) which would ontribute to my THAC0 and does some nice damage.
Alas I only get one attack with this blade. Will this stay this way or is my ApR going up with levels only slower for weapons than for fists. Or do I need ** in Longswords to get more than 1 ApR?
Can anyone give me a table or something for what exactly (save items, spells, potions) increases ApR?

Tyrion · 11-02-2003, 07:31 AM

well the fists get better faster I think...only the monk, its his spacial weapon...

Faceman · 11-02-2003, 10:36 AM

thx, but has anyone a more precise explanation?
I'd love some numbers.

dmuzzy · 11-02-2003, 07:00 PM

Ah yes, the Monk. The first character that I beat the game with many moons ago. The Monk is still my favorite class. As far as ApR go, I can't remember well enought to give you specifics, but I do know that your ApR goes up when using your fists. I believe it hits 4 ApR at the Experience Cap.

As far as longswords (and other weapons) go, you will only get 1 ApR, ever. And you can only put 1 star in any weapon. If you have the bonus merchants installed, you can buy an very expensive Monk-only Wachazie (butchered the spelling) in the Copper Coronet. It gives you 2 ApR and a chance to poison the target (nice for Trolls). In my opinion, though, it is overpriced and Trolls seem to save vs the poison too many times for my liking. I prefered to buy the +3 club that does Acid damage from the guy at Trademeet (and until then, I buy a Longsword that does flame damage).

I would recommend going to the character screen and clicking on "Kit Description" at the bottom of the screen. It will give you all of the specifics about the Monk's ApR with his fists and at what level they are considered "magical". They start at "normal" and are eventually considered +1, then +2, and lastly +3 to hit.

SPOILER

This will cause you problems if you try to kill Kangaxx as you need a +4 magical weapon.

Also, in the Fish-City (can't remember the name), you can pick up a pair of gloves that give you +4 to hit and +4 to damage with fists (doesn't give you +4 to hit magical, though).

End SPOILER

Anyway, enjoy the Monk. It's not a powerhouse class like the Sorcerer, or Kensai (mage), but there is nothing more satisfying that seeing a dragon drop with one hit when he fails a save vs your Quivering Palm.

Faceman · 11-03-2003, 01:11 AM

so this means ApR for weapons won't get better EVER?
I know about the fists, I read the kit description very thorougly before I started and check it every once in a while (when I want to excite myself about what I'll be getting with the next lvlup

)
I merely thought it would be fun to use some swords some time but 1ApR is just too low. I know that there are some weapons later in SoA which provide you with +1ApR but currently I'm in BG1 and don't have access to them.

dmuzzy · 11-04-2003, 12:40 PM

Umm...forgive my stupidity, but how are you playing a Monk through BG1?

Hmm, I just noticed that you said that you were playing through BGT. I am not familiar with BGT, is it a mod that allows you to play the classes from BG2 in BG1?

Xen · 11-04-2003, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dmuzzy:
Umm...forgive my stupidity, but how are you playing a Monk through BG1?

Hmm, I just noticed that you said that you were playing through BGT. I am not familiar with BGT, is it a mod that allows you to play the classes from BG2 in BG1?

Yes. [img]smile.gif[/img]

JrKASperov · 11-04-2003, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dmuzzy:
Anyway, enjoy the Monk. It's not a powerhouse class like the Sorcerer, or Kensai (mage), but there is nothing more satisfying that seeing a dragon drop with one hit when he fails a save vs your Quivering Palm.

Not a powerhouse? He kicks fighter's asses after lvl13! Belay special abilities, he does MONSTEROUS damage, and with the help of magical items can get an AC of -10 easy enough. Also, his thaco+ApR gets high enough as well, using those special gloves, and AC boosting items, your Monk WILL be more damage dishing than your Kensai.

Faceman · 11-04-2003, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JrKASperov:

quote:
Originally posted by dmuzzy:
Anyway, enjoy the Monk. It's not a powerhouse class like the Sorcerer, or Kensai (mage), but there is nothing more satisfying that seeing a dragon drop with one hit when he fails a save vs your Quivering Palm.

Not a powerhouse? He kicks fighter's asses after lvl13! Belay special abilities, he does MONSTEROUS damage, and with the help of magical items can get an AC of -10 easy enough. Also, his thaco+ApR gets high enough as well, using those special gloves, and AC boosting items, your Monk WILL be more damage dishing than your Kensai. [/QUOTE]Sadly I sarted on lvl1 and now that I'm very close to Sarevok I'm only nearing lvl11

Dundee Slaytern · 11-04-2003, 08:13 PM

Deal more damage than the Kensai?

Now, now, Monks are powerful and all, but let us not exaggerate things.

11-02-2003, 06:18 AM	#1
Faceman Hathor Join Date: February 18, 2002 Location: Vienna Age: 43 Posts: 2,248	I'm currently soloing a monk through BGT. If you want to read my story it's here It's my first time as a monk so bear with me if I don't know some basics about his character developement. I'm currently lvl6 which gives me 2ApR with my fists but I picked up a rather nice longsword recently (and I have * in Longswords) which would ontribute to my THAC0 and does some nice damage. Alas I only get one attack with this blade. Will this stay this way or is my ApR going up with levels only slower for weapons than for fists. Or do I need ** in Longswords to get more than 1 ApR? Can anyone give me a table or something for what exactly (save items, spells, potions) increases ApR? __________________ \"I am forever spellbound by the frailty of life\"<br /><br /> Faceman

11-02-2003, 07:31 AM	#2
Tyrion Quintesson Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: straight outta Kålltorp Age: 38 Posts: 1,081	well the fists get better faster I think...only the monk, its his spacial weapon... __________________ ...with the Bible and the Uzi as weapons

11-02-2003, 10:36 AM	#3
Faceman Hathor Join Date: February 18, 2002 Location: Vienna Age: 43 Posts: 2,248	thx, but has anyone a more precise explanation? I'd love some numbers. __________________ \"I am forever spellbound by the frailty of life\"<br /><br /> Faceman

11-03-2003, 01:11 AM	#5
Faceman Hathor Join Date: February 18, 2002 Location: Vienna Age: 43 Posts: 2,248	so this means ApR for weapons won't get better EVER? I know about the fists, I read the kit description very thorougly before I started and check it every once in a while (when I want to excite myself about what I'll be getting with the next lvlup ) I merely thought it would be fun to use some swords some time but 1ApR is just too low. I know that there are some weapons later in SoA which provide you with +1ApR but currently I'm in BG1 and don't have access to them. __________________ \"I am forever spellbound by the frailty of life\"<br /><br /> Faceman

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11-02-2003, 07:00 PM	#4
dmuzzy Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: July 15, 2003 Location: Columbia City, Indiana Age: 55 Posts: 10	Ah yes, the Monk. The first character that I beat the game with many moons ago. The Monk is still my favorite class. As far as ApR go, I can't remember well enought to give you specifics, but I do know that your ApR goes up when using your fists. I believe it hits 4 ApR at the Experience Cap. As far as longswords (and other weapons) go, you will only get 1 ApR, ever. And you can only put 1 star in any weapon. If you have the bonus merchants installed, you can buy an very expensive Monk-only Wachazie (butchered the spelling) in the Copper Coronet. It gives you 2 ApR and a chance to poison the target (nice for Trolls). In my opinion, though, it is overpriced and Trolls seem to save vs the poison too many times for my liking. I prefered to buy the +3 club that does Acid damage from the guy at Trademeet (and until then, I buy a Longsword that does flame damage). I would recommend going to the character screen and clicking on "Kit Description" at the bottom of the screen. It will give you all of the specifics about the Monk's ApR with his fists and at what level they are considered "magical". They start at "normal" and are eventually considered +1, then +2, and lastly +3 to hit. SPOILER This will cause you problems if you try to kill Kangaxx as you need a +4 magical weapon. Also, in the Fish-City (can't remember the name), you can pick up a pair of gloves that give you +4 to hit and +4 to damage with fists (doesn't give you +4 to hit magical, though). End SPOILER Anyway, enjoy the Monk. It's not a powerhouse class like the Sorcerer, or Kensai (mage), but there is nothing more satisfying that seeing a dragon drop with one hit when he fails a save vs your Quivering Palm.

11-04-2003, 12:40 PM	#6
dmuzzy Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: July 15, 2003 Location: Columbia City, Indiana Age: 55 Posts: 10	Umm...forgive my stupidity, but how are you playing a Monk through BG1? Hmm, I just noticed that you said that you were playing through BGT. I am not familiar with BGT, is it a mod that allows you to play the classes from BG2 in BG1?

11-04-2003, 08:13 PM	#10
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Deal more damage than the Kensai? Now, now, Monks are powerful and all, but let us not exaggerate things.

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