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Old 11-07-2001, 06:29 PM   #1
Lady Nightshade
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Hi Saz! *hugs* thanks for inviting me here!

Saz told me about Wizardry 8
so..I downloaded the demo (took 10 hours)
and I LOVED it
never played any of the Wizardry games so can someone fill me in on the world?
is it like Might & Magic? I was wondering cause when my characters leveled up I saw the option of "modern weapons" and the descript mentioned guns. I loved the Might & Magic games but didn't care too much for the sci fi aspect of it.

So is there some big futuristic element in Wizardry?
I still want to get it, I really liked it, but am just curious as what to expect from the game

sorry for my silly questions [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-08-2001, 01:55 AM   #2
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For Lady Nightshade: Here's a synopsis of the Wizardry series from Wizardry 6 onward, to give you a background on the series. This was originally posted by me in Gen Con, so if you've seen this already, you can disregard it.

Generally, the current storyline starts around Wizardry 6: Bane of the Cosmic Forge (BoCF). Since I don't think many of you care to go back to play a DOS game from 1990 I'll summarize it and CoDS here for you.

BoCF starts out with your party of adventurers searching for a magic pen (the Cosmic Forge), an instrument which has the ability to alter reality by what you write with it. Some 120 years past, an evil king, queen, and wizard banded together to steal the pen from an altar known as the Cosmic Circle, guarded by the Cosmic Lords so that no one could use it for ill. Throughout Wizardry 6, you unravel the mystery: the pen has a "curse" placed upon in (therefore, the "Bane" pen) in that whoever alters reality with it outside of the Cosmic Circle has to suffer as a curse whatever they have written. You encounter all of the hapless miscreants in their afterlife, suffering from the curses they wrought upon themselves: the king, who wished to become immortal, was cursed to be a vampire, the wizard, who wished to know everything, split into two beings (that which is and that which is not) and went insane, etc. Eventually you face off against the evil king and his "mistress", Rebecca (or you can choose to league with them instead, which gives a different start for the next game!), and then encounter the bane pen. Upon taking it, a mysterious alien appears and claims the pen for the Lords of the Cosmic Circle. Thus Wizardry 6 ends and the start of the next game is set.

Wizardry 7: Crusaders of the Dark Savant (1992) takes up where Wiz 6 leaves off. The strange alien, known as Aletheides, is a robotic servant for the Cosmic Lords. During the 120 years that the pen was lost, the Cosmic Lords were unable to use it to guard the hidden location of one of the most powerful artifacts in the universe, the Astral Dominae, the invention of one Phoonzang (a wizard, and also now a god). With this device, one can create and destroy universes (although one could argue the same thing with the pen!) The world where the artifact is hidden, Lost Guardia, became discovered, and now several forces are on their way to try to claim this device for themselves: the T'Rang, a loathesome race of spider-men, the Umpani, a militaristic race of rhinocerouses (think of the Giff in AD&D), and the Dark Savant, a being of mysterious origins and even more dubious motives for obtaining this artifact. With the Dark Savant travels a girl by the name of Vi Domina, who is a distant descendent of Phoonzang, the creator of the artifact. Into this scenario your party is "dumped" to try to find the artifact for the Cosmic Lords so as to safeguard the secret again.

On Lost Guardia you have several different "native" tribes: the Rattkin, a race of thieving rodents, the Munk and the Dane, rival religious sects, the Gorn, a race of Lawful Good orcs (!), and the Higardi, mysterious valkyries with high technology living in the mountains to the far south. Your party has to literally scour this whole world finding the pieces to the puzzle for finding the Astral Dominae.

To make the long story short, upon finding the Astral Dominae, you cannot get it to work. Only Vi Domina can (being Phoonzang's great-great-great-great-great-great-whatever-granddaughter) because she bears his genetic code. The Dark Savant ends up holding her hostage (not knowing the secret) and forces you to trade him the Astral Dominae for her release (that is, if you take the "Good" ending rather than the "Evil" one, in which you keep the artifact and let her die). He takes off for the Cosmic Circle, with your party and Vi Domina in pursuit.

This is where Wizardry 8 comes in.

Wizardry 8 starts with your party landing on the world Domina, the home of the Cosmic Lords and the Cosmic Circle. Apparently, there will be a lot of cameos from the NPC's in the past; the T'Rang and Umpani will be there, as well as the Dark Savant (of course). Expect a final standoff among all the different factions and yourself to determine the fate of the universe, after unraveling the final mystery of the artifact. You can choose to ally or make enemies with whichever faction you wish (in Wizardry 7, I allied with the Umpani (Lawful) which will influence my party's alliances on Domina in Wizardry 8. For those of you who start a fresh party, you can choose which faction you wish to ally with.

Hopefully this explains a bit about the background of the game, and wasn't TOO confusing!


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Old 11-08-2001, 02:00 AM   #3
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In answer to your second question, LN, there will probably be a small "futuristic" element in Wizardry 8, but not like in the Might and Magic series where you have to abandon all of your prior training to specialize in "Ancient Weapons" just to finish the endgame. (yuck!) Wizardry 7 had a bit of a futuristic element in it and yet retained its basic medieval feel as well. I imagine that Wizardry 8 will do the same.

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Old 11-08-2001, 04:04 AM   #4
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Hi Lady N,

Love the signature pic, and good to see you about. The demo was good, and I can't wait to get hands on the game. Things are not looking good for the OZ distribution though - 2 EB stores, and they have neverheard of Wiz 8 .
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Old 11-08-2001, 01:57 PM   #5
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ahh ok
thanks so much! *blows kisses*
I can't wait til its out!
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Old 11-14-2001, 05:39 AM   #6
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Hi all,
Lady Nightshade, really nice name!
Did you really spend 11hours on downloading the demo?
I got it with 280kbyte/second

At the moment I´m play Wizards&Warrior.
Searched the Web for some information/hint for some problems, when I found out about the Wizardry series, never heard of it before (
Shame on me, really think I´ve missed something.

I really liked the old Ad&D adventures.
If someone still can remember Eye Of the Beholder. Played it together with a good friend, have drawn the maps with paper/pen
Ravenloft and Menzoberanzan was really good, but then came Baldurs Gate. I really don´t like the new Diablo Like layout, only tiny puppets running around. It´s all so small. I can´t identify with my party, I think the pointofview is too far away. Planescape Tornment was a bit better, cause the the good story helped around.


So I think I will feel "home" on wizardry 8 if I judge the comments right. The only question is, how could you can enter this world without knowing the older parts in detail (insider gags/comments inside the game). Hope the have a good introduction in game/handbook.
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