Underwater to Bajin?Help me plz!

Shandira · 03-03-2004, 09:43 AM

Hi!
I've been playing Wizardry for a while and this forum has given me lots of advice. But now the search function doesn't help me anymore and I need to post my own question:
My party is in levels 18-19 and I chose to take the Umpani underwater caves to get to Bajjin.The party is pretty good,but now the Trynnie and Vi Domina (the only one who can cast sould shield!!)refuse to go underwater.
Now,these Psi Sharks seem to be too tough for my party of six.
Any ideas how to avoid or kill them? Is it possible to get to Bajin with two party members missing?
I'd be happy if you could help me!

dplax · 03-03-2004, 10:02 AM

If you want to take an RPC with you to somewhere they don't want to go. Overload them with heavy items run a bit so they become unconscious and then they will go with you. (against their will).

petertmorgan · 03-03-2004, 10:36 AM

Or enter the area without them, set portal, go get them, and portal in at will anytime.

Psi sharks without soul shield gotta be really tough, unless you are very high level.

You can also get to Bayjin from

The Swamp (through the northeast corner), and that way you won't encounter Psi sharks (at least not on the way to Bayjin).

And Welcome to the Forum!

[ 03-03-2004, 10:37 AM: Message edited by: petertmorgan ]

Wereboar · 03-03-2004, 10:41 AM

It is possible to go everywhere with a party of 4 (in expert ironman). It is possible to go everywhere with a single character, i heard (at least in easy with lots of reloads). A party of six should be able to survive down there.

As dplax wrote, there are ways to for RPCs into every area. Another trick to do this is to release them, go in, set a portal, recruit them again, and teleport back. Be warned the the unhappy character will suffer from a hex spell while within these areas. But Vi should be able to cast a low-level spell like soul shield even when hexxed.

Another possibility would be to wait until you gain another level, and learn the spell with another party member. Or buy the book from Crock.

dplax · 03-03-2004, 12:23 PM

Oh yes where have my manners gone?

Welcome to Ironworks!
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Scatter · 03-03-2004, 02:12 PM

Hey, Wereboar, i finished a solo on Expert who went everywhere in the game and only reloaded 4 times. (most of my solos have not gone everywhere, though. There're a lot of places you don't need to go)

Shandira · 03-04-2004, 06:41 AM

Thanks a lot,gentlemen! [img]smile.gif[/img]
Now that a have found the staff of doom for my faery, I'll try to go underwater again-this time with Vi Domina!

Nightowl2 · 03-04-2004, 10:33 AM

You may not be too thrilled with Vi if you force her along. Not only will she be hexed as long as you're in the hated area, she also whines and moans the whole time. This is true of any NPC who you drag kicking and screaming into a location they don't like.

The overall best NPC to take along is RFS-81, who happily goes anywhere with you except the Rapax Away Camp (for a special reason). In my early playing days, he was the one NPC I always took. Eventually I didn't take any at all, as I knew the game well enough and didn't need any extra hands.

Nightowl2

petertmorgan · 03-04-2004, 11:29 AM

Vi is much more tolerable in the area she doesn't want to go if you turn your speakers off (or at least character voices).

Admittedly, she is hexed by her discomfort, but she still manages to do okay with a dread spear and with low to mid level spells. And she is still a fine meat shield.

Shandira · 03-04-2004, 03:07 PM

Yes,I've noticed her complaining before,when I tried the T'Rang transporter and ended up in Rapax Rift.But this stupid Trynnie is much worse and talks a lot more!Anyway,she'll have to come with me. I hope W8 is not like Baldurs Gate, where my complaining character suddenly got insane and killed the whole party!! [img]smile.gif[/img]

03-03-2004, 10:02 AM	#2
dplax Jack Burton Join Date: July 19, 2003 Location: an expat living in France Age: 40 Posts: 5,577	If you want to take an RPC with you to somewhere they don't want to go. Overload them with heavy items run a bit so they become unconscious and then they will go with you. (against their will). __________________

03-03-2004, 12:23 PM	#5
dplax Jack Burton Join Date: July 19, 2003 Location: an expat living in France Age: 40 Posts: 5,577	Oh yes where have my manners gone? Welcome to Ironworks! [img]graemlins/thewave.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thewave.gif[/img] __________________

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03-03-2004, 09:43 AM	#1
Shandira Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: February 16, 2004 Location: Cologne,Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4	Hi! I've been playing Wizardry for a while and this forum has given me lots of advice. But now the search function doesn't help me anymore and I need to post my own question: My party is in levels 18-19 and I chose to take the Umpani underwater caves to get to Bajjin.The party is pretty good,but now the Trynnie and Vi Domina (the only one who can cast sould shield!!)refuse to go underwater. Now,these Psi Sharks seem to be too tough for my party of six. Any ideas how to avoid or kill them? Is it possible to get to Bajin with two party members missing? I'd be happy if you could help me!

03-03-2004, 10:36 AM	#3
petertmorgan Dungeon Master Join Date: August 13, 2003 Location: CT Age: 54 Posts: 69	Or enter the area without them, set portal, go get them, and portal in at will anytime. Psi sharks without soul shield gotta be really tough, unless you are very high level. You can also get to Bayjin from The Swamp (through the northeast corner), and that way you won't encounter Psi sharks (at least not on the way to Bayjin). And Welcome to the Forum! [ 03-03-2004, 10:37 AM: Message edited by: petertmorgan ]

03-03-2004, 10:41 AM	#4
Wereboar Baaz Draconian Join Date: June 6, 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 795	It is possible to go everywhere with a party of 4 (in expert ironman). It is possible to go everywhere with a single character, i heard (at least in easy with lots of reloads). A party of six should be able to survive down there. As dplax wrote, there are ways to for RPCs into every area. Another trick to do this is to release them, go in, set a portal, recruit them again, and teleport back. Be warned the the unhappy character will suffer from a hex spell while within these areas. But Vi should be able to cast a low-level spell like soul shield even when hexxed. Another possibility would be to wait until you gain another level, and learn the spell with another party member. Or buy the book from Crock.

03-03-2004, 02:12 PM	#6
Scatter Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 17, 2003 Location: Portland Age: 66 Posts: 1,336	Hey, Wereboar, i finished a solo on Expert who went everywhere in the game and only reloaded 4 times. (most of my solos have not gone everywhere, though. There're a lot of places you don't need to go)

03-04-2004, 06:41 AM	#7
Shandira Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: February 16, 2004 Location: Cologne,Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4	Thanks a lot,gentlemen! [img]smile.gif[/img] Now that a have found the staff of doom for my faery, I'll try to go underwater again-this time with Vi Domina!

03-04-2004, 10:33 AM	#8
Nightowl2 Galvatron Join Date: December 11, 2001 Location: Plateau of Leng Age: 47 Posts: 2,190	You may not be too thrilled with Vi if you force her along. Not only will she be hexed as long as you're in the hated area, she also whines and moans the whole time. This is true of any NPC who you drag kicking and screaming into a location they don't like. The overall best NPC to take along is RFS-81, who happily goes anywhere with you except the Rapax Away Camp (for a special reason). In my early playing days, he was the one NPC I always took. Eventually I didn't take any at all, as I knew the game well enough and didn't need any extra hands. Nightowl2

03-04-2004, 11:29 AM	#9
petertmorgan Dungeon Master Join Date: August 13, 2003 Location: CT Age: 54 Posts: 69	Vi is much more tolerable in the area she doesn't want to go if you turn your speakers off (or at least character voices). Admittedly, she is hexed by her discomfort, but she still manages to do okay with a dread spear and with low to mid level spells. And she is still a fine meat shield.

03-04-2004, 03:07 PM	#10
Shandira Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: February 16, 2004 Location: Cologne,Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4	Yes,I've noticed her complaining before,when I tried the T'Rang transporter and ended up in Rapax Rift.But this stupid Trynnie is much worse and talks a lot more!Anyway,she'll have to come with me. I hope W8 is not like Baldurs Gate, where my complaining character suddenly got insane and killed the whole party!! [img]smile.gif[/img]

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