Baldur's gate remad with NWN engine

Sir Degrader · 06-03-2003, 10:15 AM

Would you buy baldur's gate 1 and 2 if it was remade with the neverwinter nights engine? There would be the same interaction, and it would be done with the third edition rules in D&D. Would YOU buy it?

philip · 06-03-2003, 11:49 AM

Probably not.

Baldur's Gate series looks way better than NWN in my opinion, areas are beautiful (no matter the resolution) NWN is repetitive, tilesets make most areas look kind of the same despite all changes to lightning and different placeacles, that's just how the game works so there's not much to do about it.

NWN was advertised to be sort of next Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate in 3d. But both games are so different from each other, NWN = multiplayer, toolset, mostly hack&slash. BG = roleplay, single player, great story.

Disclaimer on what I said about NWN: I haven't played further than somewhere in chapter 1 and Bioware said chapters 2,3,4 were more promising than the first so I'm going to try 2,3,4 later. The OC doesn't grab me very much and I'm looking forward to SoU, as the story seems to be better.

Also I played BG already so there is no need to repeat that in any different environment than BG's, which I love so much.
Both games are so different that trying to create one in the other would totally kill the fun

Gammit · 06-30-2003, 04:51 PM

^ I agree with ^

Xen · 06-30-2003, 04:52 PM

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^ I agree with ^

Malavon's Rage · 06-30-2003, 08:31 PM

i'd buy it yes, but it wouldn't be as good as the normal version

Gnarf · 07-08-2003, 02:32 PM

I think the engine for that upcomming Greyhawk game would be better for a BG remake (part-based single player game (then again, that game will have turn-based combat... IMO, that's better, but it won't be just like in BG)).

If a remake of BG used 3ed/3.5ed rule, I'd prolly pay for it (halflings have too few classes to choose from in 2nd ed.)... turn-based combat'd be nice as well.

Aelia Jusa · 07-08-2003, 06:27 PM

Well I would play it, though I wouldn't buy it. I really like the 3rd edition rules. I like the feats and new classes. I like the idea that you can raise attributes with experience - which makes sense; surely if you're out there wielding your sword or interacting with people and so on you'll get stronger or increase your charisma or mental abilities. I found it quite dull making a new character when I started playing BG1 again for the first time recently and only being able to be a cleric and not a specialist cleric. The downside is that you only get to a quite low level in BG1 which would negate some of the fun of 3rd edition levelling. You'd only get to raise your attribute twice if that (every 4 levels) for instance. However combined with BG2 it would be good since you get pretty high there.

[ 07-08-2003, 06:33 PM: Message edited by: Aelia Jusa ]

Xen · 07-09-2003, 05:55 AM

Well...I am still waiing for Icewind Gate II.

Chewbacca · 07-13-2003, 04:10 AM

I wouldn't pay for one, no. I would take for free a spin-off rather than a remake. Done well it would include cameos by favorite BG NPCs and include BG settings. To really capture that BG feeling it would need full control of a party by the player unless it was designed multi-player only. Solo might be fun if everything else was done right, but it wouldn't feel the same. It would take a team of community members to pull this off, the scope is too big for a lone module designer.

I have seen various attempts at this at NW Vault but none have been well done or well recieved.

07-14-2003, 10:48 PM

If it had the Neverwinter Nights Engine? WHAT A BLOODY STUPID QUESTION!!! I'd camp out in front of Futureshop and wait until it opens up!

06-30-2003, 04:51 PM	#3
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06-30-2003, 08:31 PM	#5
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07-08-2003, 02:32 PM	#6
Gnarf Emerald Dragon Join Date: February 6, 2003 Location: Norway Age: 40 Posts: 928	I think the engine for that upcomming Greyhawk game would be better for a BG remake (part-based single player game (then again, that game will have turn-based combat... IMO, that's better, but it won't be just like in BG)). If a remake of BG used 3ed/3.5ed rule, I'd prolly pay for it (halflings have too few classes to choose from in 2nd ed.)... turn-based combat'd be nice as well. __________________ I want a hippo.

07-08-2003, 06:27 PM	#7
Aelia Jusa Iron Throne Cult Join Date: August 23, 2001 Location: Brisbane, Australia Age: 44 Posts: 4,867	Well I would play it, though I wouldn't buy it. I really like the 3rd edition rules. I like the feats and new classes. I like the idea that you can raise attributes with experience - which makes sense; surely if you're out there wielding your sword or interacting with people and so on you'll get stronger or increase your charisma or mental abilities. I found it quite dull making a new character when I started playing BG1 again for the first time recently and only being able to be a cleric and not a specialist cleric. The downside is that you only get to a quite low level in BG1 which would negate some of the fun of 3rd edition levelling. You'd only get to raise your attribute twice if that (every 4 levels) for instance. However combined with BG2 it would be good since you get pretty high there. [ 07-08-2003, 06:33 PM: Message edited by: Aelia Jusa ] __________________

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06-03-2003, 10:15 AM	#1
Sir Degrader Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom Join Date: November 3, 2001 Location: Canada Age: 64 Posts: 2,871	Would you buy baldur's gate 1 and 2 if it was remade with the neverwinter nights engine? There would be the same interaction, and it would be done with the third edition rules in D&D. Would YOU buy it?

06-03-2003, 11:49 AM	#2
philip Galvatron Join Date: June 24, 2002 Location: aa Posts: 2,101	Probably not. Baldur's Gate series looks way better than NWN in my opinion, areas are beautiful (no matter the resolution) NWN is repetitive, tilesets make most areas look kind of the same despite all changes to lightning and different placeacles, that's just how the game works so there's not much to do about it. NWN was advertised to be sort of next Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate in 3d. But both games are so different from each other, NWN = multiplayer, toolset, mostly hack&slash. BG = roleplay, single player, great story. Disclaimer on what I said about NWN: I haven't played further than somewhere in chapter 1 and Bioware said chapters 2,3,4 were more promising than the first so I'm going to try 2,3,4 later. The OC doesn't grab me very much and I'm looking forward to SoU, as the story seems to be better. Also I played BG already so there is no need to repeat that in any different environment than BG's, which I love so much. Both games are so different that trying to create one in the other would totally kill the fun

07-09-2003, 05:55 AM	#8
Xen Symbol of Moradin Join Date: June 5, 2002 Location: Slovenia,Ljubljana Age: 37 Posts: 8,554	Well...I am still waiing for Icewind Gate II.

07-13-2003, 04:10 AM	#9
Chewbacca Zartan Join Date: July 18, 2001 Location: America, On The Beautiful Earth Age: 52 Posts: 5,373	I wouldn't pay for one, no. I would take for free a spin-off rather than a remake. Done well it would include cameos by favorite BG NPCs and include BG settings. To really capture that BG feeling it would need full control of a party by the player unless it was designed multi-player only. Solo might be fun if everything else was done right, but it wouldn't feel the same. It would take a team of community members to pull this off, the scope is too big for a lone module designer. I have seen various attempts at this at NW Vault but none have been well done or well recieved.

07-14-2003, 10:48 PM	#10
Son of Osiris Guest Posts: n/a	If it had the Neverwinter Nights Engine? WHAT A BLOODY STUPID QUESTION!!! I'd camp out in front of Futureshop and wait until it opens up!

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