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Old 10-20-2003, 01:28 PM   #1
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in mis-information it seems-

Commentary: Misleading America
By Shaun Waterman
UPI Homeland and National Security Editor
Published 10/20/2003 12:41 PM

excerpt:
WASHINGTON, Oct. 20 (UPI) -- It's official -- watching Fox News makes you ignorant.

To be precise, researchers from the Program on International Policy at the University of Maryland found that those who relied on Fox for their news were more likely than those who relied on any other news source to have what the study called "significant misperceptions" about the war in Iraq.

Pollsters asked more than 9,000 Americans about three commonly held canards: that the United States had hard evidence Saddam Hussein had been working closely with al-Qaida; that weapons of mass destruction had been found in Iraq; and that world public opinion was in favor of the U.S.-led war.

Overall, a scary 60 percent believed at least one of these fallacies. Eight percent believed all three.

The most commonly held was -- unsurprisingly -- the Iraq/al-Qaida link. Fully 48 percent of respondents believed this. The totals for the other two were in the 20 percent to 25 percent range.

But among those who get their news from Fox, 80 percent had at least one "misperception" and 45 percent -- nearly six times the overall average -- had all three.

Champions of public broadcasting can draw comfort from the fact that those who relied on NPR or PBS had the lowest misperception rate. A mere 23 percent -- less than half the next highest rate -- believed one or more.
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Old 10-20-2003, 02:25 PM   #2
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I guess you missed this discussion about a week ago then
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Old 10-20-2003, 03:26 PM   #3
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I guess you missed this discussion about a week ago then
doh. Actaully I remember it now [img]smile.gif[/img] This poll was doen by a different group so it certainly backs up Chewie's post.
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Old 10-20-2003, 03:53 PM   #4
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This poll was doen by a different group
No it wasn't, not the part that you posted, the other parts were from other sources.

The only difference is that your article was unable to properly name their source, and droped the word "Attitudes" from their title, and failed to mention tha they were also associated with the Center on Policy Attitudes.

The source in Chewie's article was the "PIPA" aka the "The Program on International Policy Attitudes" which is "a joint program of the Center on Policy Attitudes (COPA) and the Center for International and Security Studies at Maryland (CISSM), School of Public Affairs, University of Maryland."(see www.pipa.org)

You'll note if you go to the origional PIPA report (See the link I posted in Chewie's thread) that (almost) all the numbers are the same:
Overall, a scary 60 percent believed at least one of these fallacies. Eight percent believed all three.
This is on Page 7 of the report.

The most commonly held was -- unsurprisingly -- the Iraq/al-Qaida link. Fully 48 percent of respondents believed this. The totals for the other two were in the 20 percent to 25 percent range.
See pages:
13 in the paragraph under the heading "Evidence of Links...." (Its actually 49% in the report)
14 in the paragraph under the heading "Weapons of Mass Destruction"
14 in the paragraph under the heading "World Public Opinion"

But among those who get their news from Fox, 80 percent had at least one "misperception" and 45 percent -- nearly six times the overall average -- had all three.
See the chart on page 13

Champions of public broadcasting can draw comfort from the fact that those who relied on NPR or PBS had the lowest misperception rate. A mere 23 percent -- less than half the next highest rate -- believed one or more.
See the chart on page 13 again.

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Old 10-21-2003, 11:39 AM   #5
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In my not so humble opinion it's the listeners of NPR,PBS, CBS, ABC, NBC, and CNN who are getting mislead about the war. The same goes for people who read the NY & LA Times, and Washington Post. All their reporting is pretty much the same: that the war is a failure and that no chem and bio weapons were found, nor was there any connections to terrorism.
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Old 10-21-2003, 11:56 AM   #6
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All their reporting is pretty much the same: ...... that no chem and bio weapons were found, nor was there any connections to terrorism.
Damn those people for printing the truth!!!!
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Old 10-21-2003, 06:35 PM   #7
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Originally posted by khazadman:
All their reporting is pretty much the same: ...... that no chem and bio weapons were found, nor was there any connections to terrorism.
Damn those people for printing the truth!!!! [/QUOTE]LOL - it seems some people prefer the misinformation. Is it true that FOX is is currently in negotiations to employ Iraqii Bob (The Information Minister) in their facts / statistics department?
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Old 10-21-2003, 07:12 PM   #8
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Reporters without borders have just published their second World Press Freedom Rankings.

Freedom of the press is considered highest in:
[img]graemlins/happywave.gif[/img] Finland, Iceland, Netherlands, Norway [img]graemlins/happywave.gif[/img]

The four worst countries are:
[img]graemlins/1disgust.gif[/img] Laos, Burma, Cuba, North Korea [img]graemlins/1disgust.gif[/img]

In line with the results of the University of Maryland poll, the United States is ranked joint 31st in terms of freedom of expression on its own territory (alongside Greece) - but 135th on foreign territory.

This might explain the divergent attitudes to the current middle-eastern conflicts between the EU and the US, and the differing levels of awareness.

The full table (and more surprises) can be found here.
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