Should we LOVE the Kobolds, not hate them? ~continued~

[InsaneBane]

Yes - and they could have put away 2 rabbits (a male and a female) in a secure nuke protected hole and in 60 days the earth would be populated again - by rabbits [img]smile.gif[/img]

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[Sythe]

Then what about that innocent rabbit, WHO was eaten by the evil kobolds. Didn't SHE deserve to live? Who knows - maybe SHE was the mother of 6 little rabbits, that froze to death in the rabbit hole, while waiting on their mother who never returned I have tried to cast detect evil on several rabbits, but I never seen any evil ones. I have also tried to move close to several rabbits, but I never have been attacked by one.

Insane Bane if you read my story a little bit more carefully you would see the woman with a wand of magic missile killed the rabbit. Second Kobolds are not evil. Third the rabbits corpse would have gone to waste better been used as food than nothing at all.

And please let get back to the topic we are not talking about lawful good rabbits but about Kobolds on how they are misjudged in society.

[daan]

Originally posted by Horatio: quote: Originally posted by InsaneBane: Then what about that innocent rabbit, WHO was eaten by the evil kobolds. Didn't SHE deserve to live? Who knows - maybe SHE was the mother of 6 little rabbits, that froze to death in the rabbit hole, while waiting on their mother who never returned I have tried to cast detect evil on several rabbits, but I never seen any evil ones. I have also tried to move close to several rabbits, but I never have been attacked by one. [img]graemlins/greenbounce.gif[/img] Insane

If rabbits had nukes, the world would be over in six days [/QUOTE]Actually in ToB, if you have a sorcerer ( preferably ) and are of sufficient level, you can actually use bunnies and their vengefull feelings to obliterate anything in your path. It takes 2 spells .. the tactic is called.. and I'm not joking here .. the Bunny-nuke tactic.
It seems that story rings true [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Myrddin L'argenton]

Originally posted by daan: quote: Originally posted by Horatio: quote: Originally posted by InsaneBane: Then what about that innocent rabbit, WHO was eaten by the evil kobolds. Didn't SHE deserve to live? Who knows - maybe SHE was the mother of 6 little rabbits, that froze to death in the rabbit hole, while waiting on their mother who never returned I have tried to cast detect evil on several rabbits, but I never seen any evil ones. I have also tried to move close to several rabbits, but I never have been attacked by one. [img]graemlins/greenbounce.gif[/img] Insane

If rabbits had nukes, the world would be over in six days [/QUOTE]Actually in ToB, if you have a sorcerer ( preferably ) and are of sufficient level, you can actually use bunnies and their vengefull feelings to obliterate anything in your path. It takes 2 spells .. the tactic is called.. and I'm not joking here .. the Bunny-nuke tactic.
It seems that story rings true [img]smile.gif[/img] [/QUOTE]What is it? Please tell me! Anyway I though rabbits haven't the brains to choose if they are good or evil.

[Sythe]

Need I remind you people again we are not talking about Rabbits and their pitiful feelings!

[InsaneBane]

Originally posted by Sythe: Need I remind you people again we are not talking about Rabbits and their pitiful feelings!

Objection overruled!

Ko's father was out on a HUNT. Do you hunt berries and roots? No - then what do you do, when you are out to hunt? Oh yes - you are killing innocent animals. I'll bet that Ko's father had killed a lot of rabbits (I need to find proof though) before he 'stumbled over' this dead animal. How did he otherwise know that it was food?

A suspect thing is: Normally a mage would hit the target he/she intended to hit with his/her magic - or just not hit anything at all. AND a mage would know for sure if a wand was depleted or not. He/she would NOT just throw a wand still containing charges on the ground. Especially not if he/she was fighting with another creature.

Another suspect thing is: If the rabbit was killed by an acid arrow, would the kobolds that ate it not be damaged by the acid too?

My guess is that Ko's father stumbled over the mage's party while he was hunting rabbits. He then killed the mage and looted her body (she was afterwards resurrected by a priest). Ko's father hereafter killed a rabbit, and brought it back together with the loot.

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[Sythe]

Insane you are INSANE!! The mage killed the rabbit with a magic missile spell melf's acid arrow is not red it's GREEN!! I admit that Ko's father went out to hunt but all intellgent races have to hunt and kill animals in order to live. Do you believe animals should not be killed? If we didn't have animals to eat millions of men and women will STARVE we can't survive on vegtables forever! Meat makes us grow if we didn't have any meat we would be classified as halflings!! AND how can a KOBOLD kill a mage hmm? No 1st level party can raise so much havok on Ko's village which means that mage must at least have SOME power. This has nothing to do with what we are disscusing so please lets stop talking about foolish rabbits and that riff raff and get back to the topic.

[InsaneBane]

Sorry - I see that the section

"Another suspect thing is: If the rabbit was killed by an acid arrow, would the kobolds that ate it not be damaged by the acid too?" doesn't hold water [img]smile.gif[/img]

BUT a magic missile??? Would a mage use a magic missile from a wand to kill a rabbit????? Those precious spells, used to overkill a rabbit? We all know that a magic missile always hits its target, but a rabbit?? sounds suspicious

I'll say that your story doesn't hold water either!

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BTW: I am trying to do a hatchet job on your 'story' - so the rabbits have everything to do with this tread.
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Bugs Bunny for president

[Indemaijinj]

While I still find it widely implausible that a mage should use a wand to kill a simple rabbit (they cast a small fortune to recharge) the use of the Magic Missile spell itself (from memory) is not at all that strange.

The Magic Missile is unlike most other magical attacks in that it doesn't eradicate it's target in some form of violent elemental surge, but rather leaves the corpse widely undamaged. With an Acid Arrow or Burning Hands you would certainly ruin the pelt and most probably also the meat making the whole endavour quite pointless. With a Magic Missile, however both the pelt and the meat will be almost undamaged.

The same effect can only be duplicated with necromantics, that are either ineffective or very powerful and tends to provoke suspicion.

[Dragonshadow]

Originally posted by Sythe: Why are they still having their revenge Dragonshadow? Maybe this type of thing happened many times and the survivors spreading word of these people who kill their kind. And if Ko did get his revenge he might still want to countiue on. He might have the wrong impression that humans,elves dwarves etc trotting around near him or his home would attack and kill. An impresson that we are bad to the bone. Probaly when Ko becomes a father he would tell his kobold children of his horrible expierence, teaching them how evil and cruel we are. The children would believe him and believe that we are all the same. Just like many of us believe that kobolds are all evil. Both sides have the wrong impression on each other. Kobolds attacking you makes you think they are all evil especially every kobold you come across. Kobolds are attacking you because of the tales they have been told. Even if we were told that kobolds were evil we were taught hard and long about this. The kobolds have because of all of the horrible things we have done with them!! See my point? And about the god stuff in the previous posts I know that the GODS THEMSELVES HAVE THE WRONG IMPRESSION TOO!!! We are similar to kobolds in many ways.

they are using the actions of some to judge all: UNFAIR

How would you like it if I saw an dwarf going mad, and said: "all dwarfs (or dwaves) are mad?"