09-06-2001, 10:57 AM | #21 |
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Unique idea: wear a normal helmet (like from helm's or lathander's knights)
and just take their plate mail, and make somebody (fighter) a knight! ------------------ All your base are belong to us! How Are you gentlemen? Fish? *********************** Welcome to your doom!!! *********************** Official villain/demon of IW! |
09-06-2001, 02:55 PM | #22 |
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To those of you who think I am "moaning" or "don't have enough heart" maybe you should read YOUR players manual oh wait my manual is still first edition, you know before the money grubbing "Wizzies of da Coast" bought TSR and RAPED it.
I quote: "A Paladin is immune to all forms of disease" - That is good to know "A paladin is surrounded by a aura of protection 10feet radius" - Still haven't seen this in BG2 (I play core rules BTW) "A paladin using a holy sword projects a circle of power" - ditto "A paladin may not possess more than 10 magical items" - I knew this and agree "A Paladin never retains wealth" - I tithe with the best of them "A paladin does not attract followers" - I also knew this and agree So lets get down to the nitty gritty. Playing a Paladin in BG2 would normally mean that you would never finish the qame, Why? because a Paladin would never agree to do the things the quests require of him! He would never agree to work for the shadow thieves, In fact over half the people you can aquire as a NPC in BG2 a Paladin would kill on sight. Another thing due to the Aura that a Paladin has (AD&D Rules remember) he would be reconized as a Paladin as soon as he walked into the Sacred Heart and would be treated differently as would say a THIEF! It just doesn't happen. I walked into the Sacred Heart with a Chaotic Evil character and was treated just the same as with my Paladin....BS!! Also I really don't think Bodi would even approach a Paladin to make her offer. So guys and girls who is fooling who here? I love the game and I started playing D&D back in the days of the Blue box, but the designers spent to much time working on the romance aspect and didn't push the game to the limit that they could have. I think BG2 is a massive improvement over BG1, but it still is a unpolished diamond. I hope NWN finally shows us the way, because they should not even have let us play anything other than a CG fighter (I read the book...) for the quests to work properly. Oh yeah to hammer my point down, The first time I played I chose a Cleric of Helm...I went to the temple of Helm and my character was given the option to ask "What does Helm have to offer" WTF I WAS A CLERIC OF HELM!! I think at 9th level that would be a dialog option that shouldn't have been offered to me...The designers screwed up the reactions/dialog options and you can not tell me any different. ------------------ "You must gather your party before venturing forth" [This message has been edited by Wurm (edited 09-06-2001).] |
09-06-2001, 04:40 PM | #23 |
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ya cannot make this game too perfect
why don't you list the good things in this game inseatd of these flaws? then again, you have a point there. they might need soma fixing. well, we can have our own design in NWN, and lets see howmuch better we do. bioware guys would porbally laugh behind their computer desk "yeah, sucker! now you know what it is like to design a game! BUAHAHAHAHA." |
09-07-2001, 12:49 AM | #24 | |
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2) And that would take to long to type! ------------------ "You must gather your party before venturing forth" |
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09-07-2001, 12:59 AM | #25 | |
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09-07-2001, 03:05 AM | #26 | |
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09-07-2001, 03:29 AM | #27 |
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well, your first post sounded whiny so thats what people responded to.
i completely agree on the clueless dialogs that sometimes occur. all it takes is a mere one sentence in the dialog script to weed out those things, and it should have been done. i started with the pink box then the blue box (wrong order?) way back in what, '80? back when class and race were the same thing (dwarf-fighter, elf-f/mu, halfling-thief, etc). the fact is, bg got made because a corporation took tsr over, and with that comes the desire to make money. bg wouldnt be half the game it is if they had taken out the interactions and spent their time on nailing down every single rule occurance. btw, scripting and dialog is relatively easy once you break through the newbie barrier. give it a shot. as you point out, there are many things that could be cleaned up. |
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09-07-2001, 04:52 AM | #29 | |
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And don't even get me started on Magic the Gathering or the Pokeman card games. So to be fair WoC has pumped money into our beloved games but I still don't like the way they do business! And maybe I did sound whiny in my first post, but the Paladin could of and should have been done better than it was. Paladins are some of the coolest if not hardest characters to play if you have a good DM and face it the PC through the designers is the DM. And in the case of the Paladin they were sleeping on the job. ------------------ "You must gather your party before venturing forth" |
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09-07-2001, 04:16 PM | #30 |
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Its I restarted as a Lawful EVIL fighter, I just have to see Edwin turn into a girl for myself!
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