Europe's homegrown terrorists..

[Timber Loftis]

Originally posted by johnny: No, we need to round them up, and either shoot them all, like the Serbs did in Srebrenica, or evict them back to where they originate from.

I agree.

The worst story I saw a while back was the Muslims who hang outside churches in Britain protesting. Protesting Christianity basically.

As one of the harassed churchgoers pointed out, if they went and did that outside a mosque, it would be considered a hate crime and they'd get arrested.

Muslims in Europe have a social giveaway program tilted in their favor, and they are abusing it. Much like our hispanic visitors here in the US. The basic difference is your immigrants, as I understand it, are mostly legal, so you can't just deport them whereas our immigrants are mostly illegal but we aren't allowed to deport them.

Caught a statistic the other day -- once the wall went up in Arizona, border towns experienced a 40% to 60% drop in crime rate. Speaks for itself.

[Morgeruat]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070131/...terror_arrests

interesting article of relevance to the topic

An opinion poll published Monday by the conservative think-tank, the Policy Exchange, found that 37 percent of British Muslims aged 16-24 would prefer Shariah law based on the Quran, and 13 percent of that age group expressed admiration for groups such as al-Qaida that "are prepared to fight the West."

and of course:

""People don't trust their own children any more," said Shabir Hussain, chairman of the nearby Ludlow Road Mosque in Birmingham. "You feel like you should challenge your son or daughter: `Where are you going at night? What are you watching on TV? What are you doing on the internet?'"

Um Where I'm from that's called active parenting and last time I checked it was still a very good thing.

[Black Baron]

Round them up and send them away. Shooting will be illegal (I personally do not care about the legal issue as such but one needs to be civilized).

[Timber Loftis]

Originally posted by PurpleXVI: It's easy to look down on the people without a future and call them lazy when you've got one yourself.

It sure is, especially when I worked my ass off to get mine.

[Iron Greasel]

Originally posted by johnny: No, we need to round them up, and either shoot them all, like the Serbs did in Srebrenica, or evict them back to where they originate from.

It didn't work for Hitler, It's not going to work for you. Rounding up all the people you don't like and getting rid of them might sound like an appealing idea, and in a smaller scale it might even succeed, but if you try to purge an entire nation, you're going to find trouble.

[Memnoch]

The problem is, you can't kill an ideology. You can try, but the only thing that can kill an ideology is another ideology.

Look at Christianity - the might of the Roman empire couldn't kill it. The more they tried the stronger it grew. I don't see how you can try and do the same with this Islamofascism, considering this ideology can spread around the globe with cellphones, videos, Youtube, message forums and whatnot.

We need to be smarter in trying to fight this problem, rather than just pulling the six-shooters out.

[ 02-01-2007, 07:38 AM: Message edited by: Memnoch ]

[Black Baron]

Iron Greasel-the "KTA" (kill them all), strategy did wonders to hitler. He was defeated, commited suicide and nazism was effectively wiped out.
However it worked with hitler only because in the core germany was and still is a democratic country. Reversing to normal western way of thinking (as opposed to eastern way of thinking) was relativly easy for germans. The eastern people will have trouble of accepting the western way of thinking (iraq for example).In order to secure peace in the middle east (and thus all over the globe) you need to act as an eastern king rather than western prime minister. In short-acting more or less like Saddam (in principle but of course not on the scale).

Mind you, i do not belittle "eastern way of thinking" or "western way of thinking". I merely point out that there can't be any peacefull coexistance between these two "grand ideologies".
If you think about our peacefull relationships between Egypt and jordan, please remember that we are talking about "peace from strength" rather than "peace from belief" (like you have in europe) .