Religious sect claims birth of first human clone

[khazadman]

Havn't any of you people seen the movie The Boys From Brazil? What if someone wanys to clone Hitler or Stalin? Or, heaven forbid, Willy Nelson?

[The Hunter of Jahanna]

Interesting idea,Khazadman. If they did clone Hitler we would be able to see if it was just in his nature to conquer the world or if how he was raised and his experience is what caused it.

[andrewas]

Originally posted by Scholarcs: [b] quote: Originally posted by Grojlach: Group aims for adult clones The Raelians eventually hope to develop adult clones into which humans could transfer their brains, Rael said.

Now thats a waste of time, your brain decays as much as the rest of your body does.

[/QUOTE]Are you sure? I thought that the brain was usualy healthy at death (cept from cases like Alzheimers etc), but the body could no longer support it. In that case, a clone like this could indeed be useful (whether or not creating such a clone is ethical is another matter). And then there are people who die in accidents and suchlike where the brain is very often left intact.

[Arnabas]

These guys freak me out. I met one at a ... um... establishment for adult male entertainment that my friend FORCED me to go to... She was performing there. She was asked by my friend to perform at his table and afterwards they began to talk a bit. She told him she was a Raelian and explained to him that humans were all created by extra-terrestrials usiang genetic modification. She gave us each a pamphlet titled "The True Face of God", which had a grey on the cover.
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[Timber Loftis]

PRoblems with human cloning:

1. Is the new being a human? Does it have rights? Can it vote?
2. But, the big advantage, medically, of human cloning will be 100% reliability for transplant organs. They make a clone cell or two of you and freeze them. Then, you need a new organ, it's grown. But does the whole human have to be grown first? That's morbid. Grow a clone to chop off its arm. But, what if you can just grow the kidney in a vat? Any problems then?
3. Theft cloning. 10 years after human cloning begins, we find out a sperm bank has been making perfect clones from its reserve stores. Whose child is it - who does it belong to? What if it's 12 years old before the original "parent" discovers it?

Just some thoughts.

[/)eathKiller]

o_o personally I think that whatever Cult this may be has put way too much emphasis on their religeon in the media and not enogh on the science. That's also what's putting them up for so much skeptesicm. What will be the worst outcome of all this is if the clone is proven to be real, In which case we will have to submit to the Raelians as being the leaders in cloning, which makes me absolutley sick inside. Perhaps this should banned if it is used to promote a religeon over science.

[Sir Kenyth]

The fact of the matter will soon become apparent. If they resist allowing someone to do DNA tests to verify their claims, it's surely a hoax. I personally find it terrible that they would risk a childs health letting them be created this way. This should not have happened and has very little benefit. It will be a long time before they can grow organs for transplants. It's no better anyway. Stem cells need to be removed from a living embryo that dies, so it's just as bad. Live forever the way god meant you to, by having children! Control unwanted pregnancy the smart way, with birth control. I don't like the idea of terminating embryos with the belief that they're not really alive just because someone doesn't want them to be.

[Iron_Ranger]

This may seem like a silly point...but...arent there some people complaining that the world is over populated. If so, why do we want to duplicate people?

[Tancred]

Creepy. I think that, regardless of whether this cult is proven wrong or right, it will disappear. Freedom of religion is a right all human beings are allowed, but you can't make pronouncements like the Raelians have without becoming a threat to someone's way of life.

Tancred