08-20-2011, 03:31 PM | #201 |
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Re: New NASA Data Debunks Global Warming
Okay these are funny ..... LOL
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08-20-2011, 04:35 PM | #202 | |
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Unless of course this was just an excuse to not do the work... What am I missing here, are you actually interested in this subject or just bullshitting, lol? Is this maybe a veiled political thing or somethin'? If so, just say it and I will stop encouraging you. A challenge like this seperates the serious people from the non-serious. Wouldn't you like to be viewed as credible rather than just arguing over something that you refuse to become informed about? Personally, I'm at a loss as to why you wouldn't jump at this. Again, the only thing I can think if is that you're not too concerned about the truth to begin with. Is this maybe a case of voiceing doubts with no interest in quelling them? As Micah said, the workings of the entire thing are not fully understood by the scientists themselves. It begins with a premise of (sane) skepticism and works to prove or disprove a theory. They do not claim to have all the answers. That is why it is called science rather than religion. But this is another reason I would like you to talk to people about it. They can explain the premise of it to you maybe even by using examples etc. From how they predict the weather to how they track DNA sequence predicatability. And then maybe you can gain a broader understanding of science in general, its models and scales, its practice overall. Why pass up the opportunity to open your mind and increase your knowledge?
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08-21-2011, 05:35 AM | #203 | |
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Climate change believers refuse to even consider the alternate possibility that the warming trend indicated by various graphs could be a completely natural cycle, the Earth warming up to where it is supposed to be as it has done many times in the past. Their claim is that human beings are the only cause and that is not a conclusion that can be substantiated beyond reasonable doubt. SecretWarrior, the scientists are claiming that they know all the answers on the subject of climatology, otherwise they wouldn't be predicting global disaster. This is not an argument that anyone is ever going to win. We all know that none of us are going to convince anyone else to change their mind. That being said, it isn't a conspiracy theory or straw man to suggest that an alternate hypothesis is possible or plausible.
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08-22-2011, 04:29 PM | #205 |
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Re: New NASA Data Debunks Global Warming
I suppose, then, that I should ask the other pertinent question:
suppose human beings are, indeed, causing climate destabilization. Why should I care? This isn't a pollution issue; rather, one of a warmer planet. People will adapt to the new situation or they will not; the choice is theirs. In short, even if human beings are doing everything that many people claim it won't be the end of the world.
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08-22-2011, 04:44 PM | #206 |
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Exactly my point earlier. You needn't. The people that do care are already on it.
While there could be something to be said for hoping for the best and preparing the the worst, if you are adamant that the worst will not come to pass, then you've gone as far as you can go with this. The work will continue with or without.
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08-22-2011, 05:09 PM | #207 |
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Re: New NASA Data Debunks Global Warming
Fair enough.
There are more pressing concerns that will negatively impact us all sooner than any climate problems might, namely the economy.
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08-23-2011, 01:30 PM | #208 | |
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Plants cannot. If a forest needs to migrate northward to follow changing climate, it's movement rate is measured in feet per year. Domesticated crops could be moved a bit faster with the aid of people, but there really aren't enough of us to get out there and save all the plant life that would be at risk, assuming we even had the foresight to try to do it. Again, this is only one of many variables, probably too many to count. But we have found previously that ecosystems are both hardier than we would expect in some respects and more fragile than we would expect in others. |
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08-23-2011, 04:28 PM | #209 |
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Re: New NASA Data Debunks Global Warming
That doesn't sound too bad, all things considered. It will also make things more interesting--what is life without a little change thrown in to liven up things?
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Re: New NASA Data Debunks Global Warming
Debunker Debunked.
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