New Star Wars trailer last night on TV

[Timber Loftis]

Aelia, I think what SW really suffers from is the "idealism of their youth" that people exercise over their memory databanks.

The first SW has like 100 glitches, from visible boom mikes, to stormtroopers running into walls to Luke's famous cry "Carrie!" when he gets back from whomping but on Yavin. And that trench in the Death Star -- was it on a revolving loop or what? It was almost like the scene in MP's Holy Grail where they are running to storm the castle, and still running... and still running... and then *bam* they're there.

Your are so right about the plot of the new movies -- very complex. Very fleshed out.

And, at least in the new movies, the lightsaber duels rock. You can make fun of Yoda the frog-fighter all you want, but Alec Guiness's death scene was a snoozer as far as fight scenes go -- though interesting from the dramatic side of things. And screw the whole "Yoda went from being an old man to being a nutso fighter, inconsistent with the first trilogy" crowd -- if the little dude can lift an X-wing with his mind, he can certainly use his mind to twirl his 3' frame through the air.

But, generally, many adults thought those original movies were a quirky weird and goofy thing at the time -- much as we may see SpongeBob or PokeMon today. Now that the kids who loved those movies as a kid have grown up, they view the new movies with a harsh critic's attitude, and not only idealize the early ones, but also take offense to trying to continue a story they saw as perfect the way it was.

And, if you really hate Jar Jar -- and I admit it, I do too -- go back and watch the little piggy guys in Cloud City play keep-away with C3PO's head from Chewie, or go watch the crazily-reworked singing scene in Jabba's Palace, or just watch the Battle of Endor portion of RotJ and *make* yourself not fast forward it. Better yet, watch the whole "Goldenrod is a God" bit with C3PO on Endor -- complete with Mark Hamil doing the whole "I look like I'm taking a dump, so I must be using the force" bit while hanging upside down from a spit.

Sorry, [img]graemlins/rant.gif[/img] off now. *wipes spittle from corners of mouth*

[ 03-24-2005, 04:58 PM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ]

[Morgeruat]

Aelia, my main problem with Episode two was that the acting was fake unbelievable, and very campy, I just couldn't buy into the Amidala/Anakin romance, it never really seemed like anything other than two people reciting lines they had just opened and read moments before, and I rewatched the pod-racer scene in episode 1, an exciting bit, yes, but try shutting Jar-Jar out, or rather focus on him, everyone ignores him, and Lucas inserts stock footage into the scene with the moronic gungan shouting to add "drama" I can take Jar Jar or leave him (I don't hold any special hatred for him) but that scene still sticks out in my mind as horribly done and detracting from the action.

[JrKASperov]

Morg: but Anakin is SUPPOSED to be so. He is frustrated and annoying to the extreme. That is what will make him Darth Vader as well.

[Thoran]

I watched the origonals last week and I still think ESB is the best of the series. There were definitely some hokey scenes that didn't seem as hokey when I was a kid, but IMO it's got a more cohesive storyline than EP2 (which just felt too fragmented to me) and significantly less silliness than EP1. The special effects hold up nicely too, pretty impressive accomplishment. Sure there's some noticeably dated stuff like the death star attac scene, but the models still look excellent (the use of scale on the movies is wonderfully effective) and for the most part his newly added CG stuff blends in reasonably well.

The light saber fights are vastly better in the prequels though, and the image of Jedi as powerful is much better conveyed.

What was Lucas thinking with that singing scene in Jabba's palace... that was HORRIBLE.

[Memnoch]

Originally posted by Morgeruat: Aelia, my main problem with Episode two was that the acting was fake unbelievable, and very campy, I just couldn't buy into the Amidala/Anakin romance, it never really seemed like anything other than two people reciting lines they had just opened and read moments before, and I rewatched the pod-racer scene in episode 1, an exciting bit, yes, but try shutting Jar-Jar out, or rather focus on him, everyone ignores him, and Lucas inserts stock footage into the scene with the moronic gungan shouting to add "drama" I can take Jar Jar or leave him (I don't hold any special hatred for him) but that scene still sticks out in my mind as horribly done and detracting from the action.

I think what killed it for me was bloody Hayden Christensen's performance in EP2 - a piece of plywood would've exuded more emotion than he did. I just couldn't take him seriously after his performance. A snotty little kid as the Dark Father - yeah right!

[Morgeruat]

I've read in a few places that GL is so paranoid obout his scripts being leaked he doesn't like to let his actors see their lines until a day or two before they shoot the scene, IF that's true, I can forgive Haden his cardboard performance. (I also heard that Liam Neeson threatened to walk on Episode 1 if he didn't get a full script, and George caved).

[Sir Goulum]

Originally posted by Morgeruat: I've read in a few places that GL is so paranoid obout his scripts being leaked he doesn't like to let his actors see their lines until a day or two before they shoot the scene, IF that's true, I can forgive Haden his cardboard performance. (I also heard that Liam Neeson threatened to walk on Episode 1 if he didn't get a full script, and George caved).

Wow. I know I sure wouldn't want to spend time trying to steal any of those scripts. [img]tongue.gif[/img]