HOW DO U KILL DEMI KANGAXX!!!!!!!

[andrewas]

Originally posted by Dev: The Daystar with its +4 vs. evil creatures enchanment should be able to hit Kangaxx (if he's evil [img]tongue.gif[/img] ), if it can't it's a bug. and btw hi there to everyone posting on this board. /dev

HI, welcome to IW.

Daystar does not work on demi-liches. It is not a bug. Its the way it is.

Sunrays dosent work on Demi-liches either. This is because their immune to all spells level 1-9.

Therefore, Daystar should never be used against Kangaxx.

[Kaltia]

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern: Urgh... I said it once, and I will say it again, quote: Monks can use Daystar, as it is a Long Sword, but it is useless anyway against a Demi-Lich, as its' enchantment level is only +2 at best. The +4 bonus that is written on its' item description is referring to a THACO bonus.

[/QUOTE]I thought it was a bastard sword? I'd check but i'm installing BG SoA right now....again...and I'm only up to 50% darn it!

[Dundee Slaytern]

Originally posted by andrewas: ~~ Therefore, Daystar should never be used against Kangaxx.

Well, not his Demi-Lich form at least. You can still use Daystar against his Lich form.

[Dundee Slaytern]

Originally posted by Kaltia: I thought it was a bastard sword? I'd check but i'm installing BG SoA right now....again...and I'm only up to 50% darn it!

Daystar is a Long Sword. I am absolutely 100% sure of this, and may Ziroc subtract 4000 posts from me if I am wrong. [img]tongue.gif[/img] Jesting aside, it is really a Long Sword. I am pretty sure you must have used it with your Thieves before. Thieves cannot use Bastard Swords, but can use Long Swords.

[Dev]

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern: Welcome to the Ironworks Forum, Dev. A quick correction about a common misconception regarding the effectiveness of Daystar +2. It is only a +2 enchanted weapon at best, and at all times. The +4 bonus that is stated in its' item description is referring to a THACO bonus, not the enchantment level. For a complete list of weapons that can hurt Demi-Liches, you can refer to the link in my signature.[/qb]

First, thanks for the welcome [img]smile.gif[/img]

I did in fact understand your point in your previous posts.

What I meant to say is that the THAC0 bonus vs. a given enemy is supposed to be the enchantment level unless _otherwise noted_. (Which is why only some weapons with varying THAC0 bonuses has a note stating their all around enchantment level).

I know the Daystar can't hit Kangaxx but I'll still say it's a bug [img]smile.gif[/img]

Edited : Removed evil quote in quote.

/dev

[ 09-17-2002, 01:09 PM: Message edited by: Dev ]

[Kaltia]

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern: quote: Originally posted by Kaltia: I thought it was a bastard sword? I'd check but i'm installing BG SoA right now....again...and I'm only up to 50% darn it!

Daystar is a Long Sword. I am absolutely 100% sure of this, and may Ziroc subtract 4000 posts from me if I am wrong. [img]tongue.gif[/img] Jesting aside, it is really a Long Sword. I am pretty sure you must have used it with your Thieves before. Thieves cannot use Bastard Swords, but can use Long Swords.[/QUOTE]Be 1 sec, I'll check with SK [img]tongue.gif[/img]
ACK! Put toB in, straight away it demands CD2, then gets up to 15% before wanting ToB again! Installing BG2 is driving me NUTS, i tell you....
Alright, i don't really want to admit this, but daystar IS a bastard sword.
The last time I played a thief was aaaaaaaaaages ago...maybe I was confusing it with the blade of searing? 8realises she's making lame excuses and begins to use some colourful language*
Now for the fix packs.

[Dev]

Daystar is a long sword.

/dev

[Dundee Slaytern]

Originally posted by Dev: First, thanks for the welcome [img]smile.gif[/img] I did in fact understand your point in your previous posts. What I meant to say is that the THAC0 bonus vs. a given enemy is supposed to be the enchantment level unless _otherwise noted_. (Which is why only some weapons with varying THAC0 bonuses has a note stating their all around enchantment level). I know the Daystar can't hit Kangaxx but I'll still say it's a bug [img]smile.gif[/img] Edited : Removed evil quote in quote. /dev

I do not have a link handy, but it has been asked already to the game designers over at the BlackIsle Forums( last year). They assured us it was not a bug, and gave the reason which I used as well.

It must be stated that the item descriptions can be misleading, if not downright wrong. One classic example I can think of right now is the Blade of the Roses +3 Longsword. It was meant to be a Bastard Sword, but they changed it to a Longsword at the last minute. Unfortunately, the item description failed to reflect this change which is why its' damage is stated as 2d4+3 in the item description, when in actual fact, it is 1d8+3.

In short, do not place your trust in item description too much. It is mostly accurate, but some are not.

Fast facts: Sunstone Bullets are always +4 enchanted
Warhammer +1, +3 vs Giantkin is always +4 enchanted
Mace of Disruption +1 is always +4 enchanted
Mace of Disruption +2 is always +5 enchanted
etc... ...

My point is, the THACO does not always reflect the actual enchantment value of the item. Hope this helps to clear your doubts.

[Desuma Malevois]

.....but tell us, Dundee, can Daystar hurt a demilich? [Desuma ducks and runs for cover]

[Dundee Slaytern]

Originally posted by Desuma Malevois: .....but tell us, Dundee, can Daystar hurt a demilich? [Desuma ducks and runs for cover]

ARRGGGHHHH!!!!