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09-11-2001, 03:57 PM | #53 |
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I just got out of the military and almost wish I hadn't. I originally joined active duty from reserves to go to the gulf war, this hits much closer to home than Kuwait. Looks like ol' Bush Jr. may get to follow in his fathers footsteps and declare war. I don't think there's a hole deep enough for Bin Laden to hide in if he's responsible. I don't know if Afghanistan will want this "Hot Potato" if he's found the culprit. If he's continued to be sheltered I'm sure it will mean war.
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If you would continue reading consecutive posts within threads and not just jump in to badmouth me you would see that I said I do not think that Bush himself orchestrated it. I did not say it is the reason for these attacks. I don't believe the planning of these attacks today took place overnight in case you really think I am that stupid. Study your politics and tell me that there have never been politicians above sacrificing their own for their benefit in the long run. Tell me that you have proof that Desert Storm was not in any way a poiltically-based message sent to the American people by George Bush Sr. You would be fooling yourself to believe it. I also said within this thread "I would like to end up knowing later on that I am completely wrong right now." Did I say once that Bush is going to use this to take over the country?! Please use your pocketchange to buy yourself a grip because you appear to have lost the one you showed up here with! Read me for what I say, not for what you want it to mean and get off my back. I don't give a crap if you are Cloudy's online boyfriend that gives you no right to put words in my mouth and twist what I say to fight with me. Memnoch, I am sorry if what I am saying here can be called a flame and the words directed at me cannot. I am tired of defending myself against people who refuse to understand that we don't all think alike, we don't all talk alike and that we are, as individuals allowed our opinions in this country so long as we do no others any harm with them. I am not attacking anyone here yet I am on the defensive at every turn with "friends" on this board. I bend over backwards on a regular basis apologizing to (a certain group of) people here who get kicks out of twisting my words, putting words in my mouth and coming across like I am a hateful person and quite frankly I am tired of it. THIS IS NOT THE DAY TO FIGHT WITH ME! THIS IS NOT THE DAY TO FIGHT WITH ANYONE! ------------------ You know childhood is over when a puddle seems like an obstacle instead of an opportunity. Is Too! Is Not! Is Too! Is Not! |
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09-11-2001, 04:16 PM | #56 | |
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09-11-2001, 04:19 PM | #57 |
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They can't know if it was headed directly for camp david YOu do realize that DC is on a line with Pittsburgh and Camp David...the actuall location of camp david is secret.. Been in those mountains several times hiking and if you wander too close to the area, the Secret Service is there to show you were the hiking path is.
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09-11-2001, 04:22 PM | #58 |
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It is concievable that a hijacked commercial jet would be shot down, if it posed a big enough threat. The good of the many outweighs the good of a few.
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09-11-2001, 04:24 PM | #59 | |
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09-11-2001, 04:29 PM | #60 | |
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Now, if I'm not mistaking, some of those planes were coming from Newark... which would have put them on climb path. For those planes originating close to NY, I think that an experience pilot was on board flying the plane. Which leaves two scenarios open: 1- an accomplice pilot (because of the time factor involved) or 2- a highjack at Take-off (come in the cockpit, kill the pilots, take control of the plane). Personnally, I don't believe that any non-accomplice pilots could've done this. You know that if you don't listen to a highjacker, you're dead... you know that if you crash into a building you, your passenger and countless of innocent people would die. So, if you're going to die, why not just slam the throttle to the dash in the last run and ditch the plane into the ocean (river or what ever it is that's beside Manhattan). The fact that they didn't do that lead me to the two scenarios outline previously. The pilots where either dead or one of them was an accomplice. Another interesting fact is that all flights originated from the East coast going to the West Coast. That would make perfect sense. You get a plane with LOTS of gaz... slam the throttle to the dash right before impact and that would give you a much bigger explosion that a plane that's almost empty. Now, as to the motif of these attack. There can be many: anything from anti-US demonstration, to proving that the US is not untoucheable, while passing to anti-WTO demonstration. The bottom line is that someone wanted to make a point and did one: piss the US off. Now, what's gonna happen, hard to say. The logical way to respond would be for the US to go and attack a "perpertrator". However, at this time, there isn't much info as to who would have done it. For the US to appear strong, some might suggest an attack within the next 48-72 hours. Most likely, this kind of retaliation would be blind. My personnal opinion as to what Mr. Bush should do: commit. They (terrorist organisations) commited an act of war towards the US. IMO, the US should be entitled to a counter attack. I don't think that you should target only the perpetrators. Go after ALL terrorists organisation. The US government has a good idea as to where to find the bad guys. Take them all out. Send a message: "You have F***** up and we will gladly remove you from the face of this earth." When I say "remove", I mean remove! Use a couple 5-10 cruise missiles per target. Nice and swift. Don't waste your time targeting one group, take them all out. Do one tomorrow, 3 more in 5 days, 50 other in 6 months and 2 the next day. This is guerrilla, you fight quick, you fight strong and you fight when the other doesn't want you to fight. Make it simple, you have anything to do with terrorism, you will suffer the consequences. Americans and Western nations have to think in Black and White to combat terrorism. That's not the way we are thinking. To blindly say that this is a cowardly act is showing that you don't understand your ennemy. To them, there's no grey... there's only black and white. They like it thought when you think in grey... that's what allows them to strike. I know, I'm harsh... but I'm damn effective. |
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