Which type of monster is most deadly in BG2? - Page 6

White Lancer · 10-03-2002, 06:54 AM

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Originally posted by Merlin Al'Thor:
How bout Iron Golems? i mean there not say as annoying as liches or Mind flayers but if your really weak and new, and if the game pited three or four agaisnt u at the same time, i think you'll get a most rightoes butt kicking. And if they come coupled with a Rakshasa, even more so. but thats just my opinion, and i;m not saying those guys are the deadliest i'm just saying if u went up agaisnt this kind of team, i reckon most people would lose.

SotM + cloak of non-detection > all

(except those who can see past invisibility (thats not rakshasa/iron golem [img]smile.gif[/img] ))

Indemaijinj · 10-03-2002, 02:19 PM

I took out a dragon with a 10-11 level party without any difficulty.

daan · 10-03-2002, 04:27 PM

I had one of the bodypart-guardian liches resist a breach, after three
Ruby Ray's of reversal .. not much spell protection after that i think ...

Alson · 10-03-2002, 04:32 PM

The Ruby Rays were not needed - Breach ignores spell protections anyway.

SixOfSpades · 10-03-2002, 04:40 PM

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Originally posted by Alson:
The Ruby Rays were not needed - Breach ignores spell protections anyway.

Except things like Spell Turning, Spell Deflection and Spell Immunity....possibly others.

andrewas · 10-03-2002, 05:05 PM

NOthing in BG2, ToB or anygame you care to name is a serious threat. They have to think to get past the tactics of someone as good as me.

And anything going up against the likes of dundee is pretty much gonna die instantly, intelligent or not.

White Lancer · 10-04-2002, 01:49 AM

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Originally posted by SixOfSpades:

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Originally posted by Alson:
The Ruby Rays were not needed - Breach ignores spell protections anyway.

Except things like Spell Turning, Spell Deflection and Spell Immunity....possibly others.[/QUOTE]Possibly spell immunity: abjuration (not sure), but the others it just ignores, ignore magic resistance as well. Breach is for dispelling COMBAT protections, protections that stop WEAPONS. Use spellstrike/ruby ray for SPELL protections, protections that stop SPELLS. They are mutually exclusive (except mirror image, but we're not talking about that [img]smile.gif[/img] ) you cannot stop a spell with a COMBAT protection, and you cannot stop a weapon with a SPELL protection. Also, spells that lower SPELL protections are not affected by stoneskin/protection form magical weapons ect...

Breach will completely ignore all spell defences (other than spell shield) and dispell ONLY the target's COMBAT protections.

LennonCook · 10-04-2002, 01:58 AM

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Originally posted by Alson:
The Ruby Rays were not needed - Breach ignores spell protections anyway.

Ruby Ray absorbs Spell Trap, Spell Turning, Spell deflection; Breach is resisted in the relevant manner by all three.

LennonCook · 10-04-2002, 02:09 AM

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Originally posted by White Lancer:
Possibly spell immunity: abjuration (not sure), but the others it just ignores, ignore magic resistance as well. Breach is for dispelling COMBAT protections, protections that stop WEAPONS. Use spellstrike/ruby ray for SPELL protections, protections that stop SPELLS. They are mutually exclusive (except mirror image, but we're not talking about that [img]smile.gif[/img] ) you cannot stop a spell with a COMBAT protection, and you cannot stop a weapon with a SPELL protection. Also, spells that lower SPELL protections are not affected by stoneskin/protection form magical weapons ect...

Breach will completely ignore all spell defences (other than spell shield) and dispell ONLY the target's COMBAT protections.

Slight correction: it will dispel combat protections, but is still resisted by most spell protections.
I put three in my post above as examples, there are also more that it is resisted by.

LennonCook · 10-04-2002, 02:10 AM

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Originally posted by andrewas:
And anything going up against the likes of dundee is pretty much gonna die instantly, intelligent or not.

I second that statement [img]smile.gif[/img]
I have a small feeling that Dundee plays chess, and is quite good at it... he definately has that type of mind [img]smile.gif[/img]

10-03-2002, 02:19 PM	#52
Indemaijinj Symbol of Cyric Join Date: June 15, 2002 Location: Denmark Age: 44 Posts: 1,163	I took out a dragon with a 10-11 level party without any difficulty. __________________ The Bleak Caballero<br /><br />Proud and original member (and secret admirer) of the Pro-Mazzy movement.

10-03-2002, 04:27 PM	#53
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 40 Posts: 1,644	I had one of the bodypart-guardian liches resist a breach, after three Ruby Ray's of reversal .. not much spell protection after that i think ... __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

10-03-2002, 04:32 PM	#54
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10-03-2002, 05:05 PM	#56
andrewas Harper Join Date: October 2, 2001 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Age: 43 Posts: 4,774	NOthing in BG2, ToB or anygame you care to name is a serious threat. They have to think to get past the tactics of someone as good as me. And anything going up against the likes of dundee is pretty much gonna die instantly, intelligent or not. __________________ [img]\"http://www.sighost.us/members/Zvijer/andrewas.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

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