Bush ranked 36th out of 42 men in "best president" list.

[dplax]

Originally Posted by Felix The Assassin Besides, who gives a rats ass about what the world thinks of us anyway? It is the US who has become the world order, police, and saviour of all situations! If we want to enjoy our capitalist lifestyle, then how dare somebody say we can't!

Go ahead and enjoy it...just know the price that the rest of the world is paying in order to keep you in your comfortable lifestyle...

[Felix The Assassin]

Originally Posted by dplax Go ahead and enjoy it...just know the price that the rest of the world is paying in order to keep you in your comfortable lifestyle...

That was an assault launched to silence any further opposition, not an assault on all of man kind. For as we all too well know, the state of our economy has an effect on the world's economy, rather a true effect or a speculative one, it is an effect.

[dplax]

Originally Posted by Felix The Assassin That was an assault launched to silence any further opposition, not an assault on all of man kind. For as we all too well know, the state of our economy has an effect on the world's economy, rather a true effect or a speculative one, it is an effect.

I'm not sure I understand. I didn't mention anything about an assault.

[Calaethis Dragonsbane]

Originally Posted by Felix The Assassin Besides, who gives a rats ass about what the world thinks of us anyway? It is the US who has become the world order, police, and saviour of all situations! If we want to enjoy our capitalist lifestyle, then how dare somebody say we can't! I leave you with: What would happen if we didn't answer the call?

Good Lord, you're not being sarcastic, are you? 'Saviour of all situations'? Do you honestly believe that? I don't usually bother to answer such threads but - it boggles the mind, truly. 'World order' - the world does not answer to America. Your nation may hold a great deal of sway, but you do not rule this planet. Stop acting as if you do, or rather, stop implying that you do. Enjoy your capitalist lifestyle all you want, but don't force it down the throats of others.

What would happen if you didn't answer the call? Certain countries might be worse off for it, but there would be less of your dead, and less of your influence, and yes, there might be a lot more causalities, but no one would accuse your nation of 'meddling' or sticking its nose where it isn't wanted, or for that matter, hate you nearly as much. I'm sure you have plenty of friends and allies, but you can't deny that there are many in this world that despise your nation and whether they pose a threat to it or not is irrelevant in that it does not alter the fact they hate your way of life. What they do with that hatred is very much relevant, however, and you've every right - just as every other sovereign nation on the face of this planet has a right - to defend yourselves. How you defend yourselves is another matter entirely though. Then we enter the sticky situation of 'pre-emptive strikes' and what have you - which is straying from my point. It will be interesting to see what happens the day you hold your forces back and don't 'answer the call'. I'm sure the world will be watching with baited breath.

Oh, and before I get flamed for being anti-American, do try to remember that Britain is supposedly allied with you. Questioning how you conduct your ideals of 'freedom' and 'justice' is not an attack on America itself; such values are to be upheld and supported. How they are is another matter entirely. Just to be clear here.

[Felix The Assassin]

Originally Posted by Calaethis Dragonsbane Good Lord, you're not being sarcastic, are you? 'Saviour of all situations'? Do you honestly believe that? I don't usually bother to answer such threads but - it boggles the mind, truly. 'World order' - the world does not answer to America. Your nation may hold a great deal of sway, but you do not rule this planet. Stop acting as if you do, or rather, stop implying that you do. Enjoy your capitalist lifestyle all you want, but don't force it down the throats of others. What would happen if you didn't answer the call? Certain countries might be worse off for it, but there would be less of your dead, and less of your influence, and yes, there might be a lot more causalities, but no one would accuse your nation of 'meddling' or sticking its nose where it isn't wanted, or for that matter, hate you nearly as much. I'm sure you have plenty of friends and allies, but you can't deny that there are many in this world that despise your nation and whether they pose a threat to it or not is irrelevant in that it does not alter the fact they hate your way of life. What they do with that hatred is very much relevant, however, and you've every right - just as every other sovereign nation on the face of this planet has a right - to defend yourselves. How you defend yourselves is another matter entirely though. Then we enter the sticky situation of 'pre-emptive strikes' and what have you - which is straying from my point. It will be interesting to see what happens the day you hold your forces back and don't 'answer the call'. I'm sure the world will be watching with baited breath. Oh, and before I get flamed for being anti-American, do try to remember that Britain is supposedly allied with you. Questioning how you conduct your ideals of 'freedom' and 'justice' is not an attack on America itself; such values are to be upheld and supported. How they are is another matter entirely. Just to be clear here.

I can only guess you completely missed what Dplax posted and my response back!

[Calaethis Dragonsbane]

Originally Posted by Felix The Assassin I can only guess you completely missed what Dplax posted and my response back!

No, no I saw it. I just fail to see how it ties in with my post - beyond your comment on World Economy and an assault against further opposition rather than an assault on all mankind. I thought I'd already mentioned though, abet briefly, in my post in acknowledgement to you raising such points? Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. *ponder*. Regardless - I still raised points Dplax did not. Thoughts?

[Felix The Assassin]

Originally Posted by Calaethis Dragonsbane No, no I saw it. I just fail to see how it ties in with my post - beyond your comment on World Economy and an assault against further opposition rather than an assault on all mankind. I thought I'd already mentioned though, abet briefly, in my post in acknowledgement to you raising such points? Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. *ponder*. Regardless - I still raised points Dplax did not. Thoughts?

Ok, I went "there" (in type). As doing such, the opposition "here" has been silenced. ATM, two of you have come along to sort out the debris, and probably not *understanding* the "tone" of the thread and replies herein. Thereby my capitalist parody has caught your attention, which was an assault to a liberal view, which in turn "silenced" said liberal.

[Calaethis Dragonsbane]

Who are you calling "liberal"? Watch where you wave that filthy word around. FYI, our 'liberals' are sellouts imho. Anyone who tries to hand Britain's sovereignty over - be it to Europe or any other government body - shouldn't be voted for. I'll have you know I'm a firm believer in monarchy. Queen and country and all that jazz. . I think we've strayed from the original topic though.

[SpiritWarrior]

Originally Posted by Felix The Assassin Ok, I went "there" (in type). As doing such, the opposition "here" has been silenced. ATM, two of you have come along to sort out the debris, and probably not *understanding* the "tone" of the thread and replies herein. Thereby my capitalist parody has caught your attention, which was an assault to a liberal view, which in turn "silenced" said liberal.

In short, you just got pwnt

[Felix The Assassin]

Originally Posted by SpiritWarrior In short, you just got pwnt

Well said liberal "WAS" silenced, but has made an encore appearance, to return to glean in their inability to follow through with what was said, or, in more laymen's terms, a "flip-flop" decision has been recorded.

And, by the way, it's your thread!