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Old 03-17-2004, 11:33 PM   #1
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Purported Al Qaeda Letter Calls Truce in Spain
Wed Mar 17, 2004 04:56 PM ET

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An unrelated videotape of a man describing himself as al Qaeda's European military spokesman also claimed responsibility for the Madrid bombing, saying it was in retaliation for outgoing Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar's domestically-unpopular support for the U.S.-led Iraq war.

In a shock election result three days after the Madrid bombs, Spain voted in the Socialist party, which has since said it will probably withdraw its troops from Iraq.

"The Spanish people... chose peace by choosing the party that was against the alliance with America," the statement said.

WE WANT BUSH TO WIN

The statement said it supported President Bush in his reelection campaign, and would prefer him to win in November rather than the Democratic candidate John Kerry, as it was not possible to find a leader "more foolish than you (Bush), who deals with matters by force rather than with wisdom."

In comments addressed to Bush, the group said:
"Kerry will kill our nation while it sleeps because he and the Democrats have the cunning to embellish blasphemy and present it to the Arab and Muslim nation as civilization."
"Because of this we desire you (Bush) to be elected."
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Old 03-18-2004, 01:29 PM   #2
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Translation: "Kerry will end the killing of us and the thinning of our ranks, and we know that if we endorse Bush we will push voters into Kerry's camp, so let's lie and say we want Bush to win."
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Old 03-18-2004, 01:59 PM   #3
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Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
Translation: "Kerry will end the killing of us and the thinning of our ranks, and we know that if we endorse Bush we will push voters into Kerry's camp, so let's lie and say we want Bush to win."
Or maybe they know that we know that they know we will think this and thus they really do wany bush to be president!

That made my head hurt [img]graemlins/bonghit.gif[/img] ahhhh much better [img]graemlins/hippysmile.gif[/img]
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Old 03-18-2004, 02:23 PM   #4
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Erm.... yeah. I think. [img]graemlins/beheaded.gif[/img]
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Old 03-18-2004, 03:34 PM   #5
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...as it was not possible to find a leader "more foolish than you (Bush), who deals with matters by force rather than with wisdom."
And this statement comes from an al-Qaeda member? It made me chuckle a bit.

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Old 03-18-2004, 04:01 PM   #6
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Sounds like they're trying to use reverse psychology. If a Democrat gets into office, they won't get what's coming to them! To top it off, the Internet will be cencored, games will be cencored, videos will be cencored, *everything* will be cencored. Your mind will be the only thing they won't be able to cencor.

I may be a Canadian, but I gotta say this anyway:

If you cherish your Freedom of Speech, Vote Bush!
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Old 03-18-2004, 04:14 PM   #7
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Here's what's hilarious about it. This f-tard is saying:

"You are not wise to react to our violence with violence."

Maybe he's feeling the sting of his own medicine used against him.

If we catch this guy, can we try him by ordeal? I volunteer to operate the rack. [img]graemlins/heee.gif[/img]
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Old 03-18-2004, 05:05 PM   #8
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Originally posted by The Whackmiester:
Sounds like they're trying to use reverse psychology. If a Democrat gets into office, they won't get what's coming to them! To top it off, the Internet will be cencored, games will be cencored, videos will be cencored, *everything* will be cencored. Your mind will be the only thing they won't be able to cencor.

I may be a Canadian, but I gotta say this anyway:

If you cherish your Freedom of Speech, Vote Bush!
I'm really curious about some additional information to illustrate your points. What makes you believe the Democrats will actually be worse to free speech and privacy than the administration that introduced the Patriot Act?
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Old 03-18-2004, 05:47 PM   #9
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I second Grojlach there. This is the same regime that has "Free Speech Zones" set up to put anti-Bush protestors out of sight. Last time I checked, my entire country should be a ■■■■■■■ free speech zone!

So I'm curious to see some evidence too, Whackmiester. [img]tongue.gif[/img] Saying "Everything'll be censored by those meanies!" isn't very convincing to me.
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Old 03-19-2004, 12:50 AM   #10
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I want to chime in and say that while the means of limiting free speech may have been passed in the Patriot Act, I personally do not see how free speech has been significantly impinged in reality -- especially compared to other "wartime" situations. For instance, Blix was in Chicago tonight speaking at an exhibit containing large exhibits outlining "they said" vs. "they did." He even made the local news, saying that he never found real WMD evidence in Iraq or information that Iraq was sharing technology with terrorists or other states. Additionally, I note that if you want to see free speech, watch Jon Stewart's show; tonight he ran a Fox news article where Cheney was speaking about successes in Iraq while a "breaking story" was shown on the same frame that covered recent terrorist efforts in Iraq -- including the burning of several buildings and car bombings. It was a funny juxtaposition and a interesting and biting commentary against Cheney. It sewayed into the discussion on the House floor today -- 6 hours of speeches just to justify a resolution saying "the world is safer with Saddam Hussein removed"; especially biting was Stewart's statements that the 9/11 connection repeatedly espoused by several Representatives were "insulting" and "outrageous."

In short, I'd say free speech tends to live on. Now, as I noted before, the means to curtail speech may be found in the flawed Patriot Act -- but they have not been utilized. Pres. Bush has repeatedly stated he is all for free speech. He's obviously for spin doctoring as well, but both sides do that.
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