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This is what they are paid to do. Yet this is also considered acceptable science, and evidence? Why? The first few pages of this topic consist of dismissing the OP article for the very same reasons. The irony is rich indeed. I'm going to assume that the members of the panel are at least scientists, and not just politicians. I didn't see a list of who's on it in the link I provided on the previous page. Surely, however, a political organization like the UN wouldn't appoint non-scientists to this panel, would they? Some interesting points from the article found at this link: Quote:
Ahh, I can't get this to work. The point being, all through the article, you can find that, in fact, not only is the entire scientific community not in agreement, but members of the panel aren't even in agreement with what eventually gets published.
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08-05-2011, 10:39 AM | #82 | |
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1. the act of polluting or the state of being polluted. 2. the introduction of harmful substances or products into the environment: air pollution. pol·lu·tant /pəˈlutnt/ Show Spelled[puh-loot-nt] noun 1. something that pollutes. 2. any substance, as certain chemicals or waste products, that renders the air, soil, water, or other natural resource harmful or unsuitable for a specific purpose. pol·lute /pəˈlut/ Show Spelled[puh-loot] verb (used with object), -lut·ed, -lut·ing. 1. to make foul or unclean, especially with harmful chemical or waste products; dirty: to pollute the air with smoke. 2. to make morally unclean; defile. 3. to render ceremonially impure; desecrate: to pollute a house of worship. 4. Informal . to render less effective or efficient: The use of inferior equipment has polluted the company's service by diffinition making foul, or unclean, rendering unsuitable.... man made CO2 doesn't render anything unsuitable, the numbers just aren't there. At best maybe 1% or so of the CO2 can be atributed to man. That means 99% comes from nature. Nature has a way of taking care of CO2: Plants. Plants take in CO2 seperate the Carbon from the Oxygen combine the Carbon with the water and other elements their roots suck up from the ground and make more plant matter. Higher CO2 levels the more plants that grow the more plant matterial made, the more CO2 locked up in the plants. Rotting plants give off more CO2 then anything man can even hope to ever give off. Decay is slow oxygenation of the carbon locked in the plants, burning is fast oxygenation. (chemistry and biology 101)
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You are correct, though, that "The Universal Agreement Church of GCC" just wants us to believe that it is happening on faith; because they believe it is true they think it must be true. However, it is a little more insidious than this--the alarmists want those of us who do not believe as they believe to act as if they are correct in spite of our disagreement that they are wrong. They want us to comply without question and then accuse us of being destructive or selfish if we do not.
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08-05-2011, 10:58 AM | #84 |
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Re: New NASA Data Debunks Global Warming
Treee are not animals as they mature they take in MORE CO2, that is simple math. Has anyone ever seen a tree stump that has been cut down? Ever notice the tree rings? They don't get smaller as the tree grows they are realtively consistant. ie: let's say a tree adds 1/2 inch to the dia of the tree every year. Well simple math dictates that a young growing tree with a dia of 6 inches added less plant matter then a mature tree with a dia of 36 inches. It's a matter of volume. As trees get larger and mature they covert and take it more CO2. I got 6 big oaks in my yard, each one weight several tons, has several tons of Carbon locked into the plant matter that makes up the tree. Those oaks aren't like my Lab they don't stop growing as they mature. Each and every year they produce more leaves, add more total volume to themselves. more Carbon is locked up in the plant matter then the year before. Almost all life on this planet is carbon based life forms ( I say almost all because some of the life found at the bottom of the ocean around the Black smokers may not be carbon based)
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Say it ain't so Az say it ain't SO!!!
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I find semantic "gotcha" games the thread has begun to devolved into on par with shrill alarmism and magical thinking. All of these are pursuits which reap little of value other than perhaps a short-lived chuckle, but at the expense of whom?
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By the way...the new designs of "clean coal" plants surpass the current EPA emissions standards--they are, by definition, clean.
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Now, I admit I did do a little bit of the "gotcha" game because you're post stated pollutants are, by definition, "stuff put into the environment by humans". Since the current GCC debate centers almost entirely on CO2 emissions, I pointed out (along with the others) that there are SEVERAL naturally occurring sources of CO2 emissions that do NOT include human output at all and that the levels of those natural emissions are greater than the output produced by humans. And, as Azred mentioned, current coal-burning plants MEET federal emissions standards, so they are meeting the "green standards" imposed by the gov't.
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