Need some advice (spoily)

Marty4 · 07-28-2005, 04:45 PM

I finally installed the Saerileth mod, and I'm having a blast with it! However, I am having some serious dificulty against the dragon that the mod adds (Klangaxin or something). My party, it seems, is just too low a level to take him on. I know I can come back later, but I have a major problem with that: I am playing a paladin and doing the stronghold quests, but the first one where you save a group of paladins from ogres is interupted by Klangy, since they are directly south of the Umar cave. I would get Carsomyr, but I dont want to kill Firkraag until I am assigned the quest, and cant get the quest until I kill Klangy.

My party:
PC Inquisitor lvl 10
Saerileth lvl 11
Anomen lvl 7/10
Jaheira lvl 9/12
Jan lvl 10/11

What level do you recomend I take on Klangy? Is there some way I could kill him now?

Thanks!

Aragorn1 · 07-28-2005, 05:19 PM

You know that killing Firky before being assigned the quest doesn't afect the quest, you just tell them you already did it.

Marty4 · 07-28-2005, 06:00 PM

Really? I read somewhere that it ruins the quest if you do it ahead of time...

Well, assuming Firky is easier, that should help a lot. Thanks!

Aragorn1 · 07-28-2005, 06:29 PM

Hmm, I'm pretty sure I did that on my last run through as a Paladin, i'll check the journal from the save to make sure.

*****VERY IMPORTANT EDIT*****: I did, BUT you don't get the extra experience aparantly that you would have got had you waited.

[ 07-28-2005, 06:44 PM: Message edited by: Aragorn1 ]

Sillara of the Tamari · 07-28-2005, 07:44 PM

If you had a 12+ level mage you could do the malison-malison-chromatic orb trick. And a couple of dooms from Jaheira wouldn't hurt. Not to mention the cheese of casting the cleric spell "Magic Resistance" on a dragon. [img]tongue.gif[/img] There is no save, as it is considered a "friendly" spell, but it SETS your MR to the level given by the spell; it does not AUGMENT your MR. Suddenly the dragon has only approximately 20%-25% MR, and those malisons, dooms, and chromatic orbs get through!

Sillara

krunchyfrogg · 07-28-2005, 08:25 PM

Greater Malison's don't stack.

Another cheesy trick is to cast "Strength" on a dragon. It's never resisted, and I'll bet dragon's are stronger than 18/00.

Western Paladin · 07-28-2005, 09:30 PM

I think they have around 20 - 22 Strength, so that should work. It seems kind of really cheesy, though.

shamrock_uk · 07-29-2005, 08:15 AM

I just wasted him with a party around level 10 - in the end it was done by magic. Cast two lower resistances (all I had memorised) and then just hit him with the usual damage spells. Flame arrow, magic missile etc.

Mazzy and Saerileth both seemed to do good jobs of holding him back from my casters but they were pretty ineffective at actually hitting him. Providing you have two or three mages, that's probably the way to go.

[ 07-29-2005, 08:17 AM: Message edited by: shamrock_uk ]

SixOfSpades · 07-29-2005, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Marty4:
PC Inquisitor lvl 10
Saerileth lvl 11
Anomen lvl 7/10
Jaheira lvl 9/12
Jan lvl 10/11

I hope you're planning on getting a full-time Mage soon....

Quote:

Originally posted by Sillara of the Tamari:
.... malison-malison-chromatic orb trick. And a couple of dooms from Jaheira wouldn't hurt. Not to mention the cheese of casting the cleric spell "Magic Resistance" on a dragon.

So....the justification for introducing a powerful Dragon at a point too early for it to be beaten is....to strongarm the player into abusing cheesy spells if they don't want to leave a hostile Dragon in a populated area? Sounds like a great mod.

Doom doesn't stack with itself, either.

White Lancer · 07-30-2005, 09:37 AM

Either does malison

07-28-2005, 07:44 PM	#5
Sillara of the Tamari The Magister Join Date: January 2, 2005 Location: Tokyo Age: 49 Posts: 105	If you had a 12+ level mage you could do the malison-malison-chromatic orb trick. And a couple of dooms from Jaheira wouldn't hurt. Not to mention the cheese of casting the cleric spell "Magic Resistance" on a dragon. [img]tongue.gif[/img] There is no save, as it is considered a "friendly" spell, but it SETS your MR to the level given by the spell; it does not AUGMENT your MR. Suddenly the dragon has only approximately 20%-25% MR, and those malisons, dooms, and chromatic orbs get through! Sillara __________________ Can you accept a necromancer? Can you trust a murderer? Can you love [url]\"http://chosenofmystra.net/forums/viewforum.php?f=17\" target=\"_blank\">Tsujatha</a>?<br />If you like Tsujatha, you should read his [url]\"http://www.gilalion.com/novels.htm\" target=\"_blank\">novels</a>.<br />Natha ssin\'urn lu\' dwalc ilythiiri noamuth wund l\' rivven: [url]\"http://chosenofmystra.net/forums/viewforum.php?f=18\" target=\"_blank\">Yasraena</a> zhah ghil!<br />[url]\"http://chosenofmystra.net/forums/viewforum.php?f=16\" target=\"_blank\">Saerileth\'s</a> bounty is as boundless as the sea; the more she gives to you, the more she has, for her love is infinite.

07-28-2005, 08:25 PM	#6
krunchyfrogg Red Dragon Join Date: February 14, 2004 Location: NY, USA Age: 48 Posts: 1,516	Greater Malison's don't stack. Another cheesy trick is to cast "Strength" on a dragon. It's never resisted, and I'll bet dragon's are stronger than 18/00. __________________ <i>A life is not important, except in the impact it has on other lives.</i><br />- Jackie Robinson<br /><br /> [img]\"http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3353/salsashark7xl.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

07-28-2005, 09:30 PM	#7
Western Paladin Dungeon Master Join Date: July 11, 2005 Location: West of the Unapproachable East Age: 40 Posts: 69	I think they have around 20 - 22 Strength, so that should work. It seems kind of really cheesy, though. __________________ In a world of 1s and 0s, are you a zero . . . or the One? "We saved the world. I say we party." -- Buffy

07-30-2005, 09:37 AM	#10
White Lancer Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: August 30, 2002 Location: Australia Age: 38 Posts: 628	Either does malison __________________ It deons\'t mttaer waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, it olny mtaetrs taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be croecrt. The rset can be a tatol mses and you can sitll raed it. The huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

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07-28-2005, 04:45 PM	#1
Marty4 Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 31, 2004 Location: VA Age: 33 Posts: 1,127	I finally installed the Saerileth mod, and I'm having a blast with it! However, I am having some serious dificulty against the dragon that the mod adds (Klangaxin or something). My party, it seems, is just too low a level to take him on. I know I can come back later, but I have a major problem with that: I am playing a paladin and doing the stronghold quests, but the first one where you save a group of paladins from ogres is interupted by Klangy, since they are directly south of the Umar cave. I would get Carsomyr, but I dont want to kill Firkraag until I am assigned the quest, and cant get the quest until I kill Klangy. My party: PC Inquisitor lvl 10 Saerileth lvl 11 Anomen lvl 7/10 Jaheira lvl 9/12 Jan lvl 10/11 What level do you recomend I take on Klangy? Is there some way I could kill him now? Thanks!

07-28-2005, 05:19 PM	#2
Aragorn1 Symbol of Cyric Join Date: July 3, 2001 Location: Cornwall England Age: 36 Posts: 1,197	You know that killing Firky before being assigned the quest doesn't afect the quest, you just tell them you already did it.

07-28-2005, 06:00 PM	#3
Marty4 Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 31, 2004 Location: VA Age: 33 Posts: 1,127	Really? I read somewhere that it ruins the quest if you do it ahead of time... Well, assuming Firky is easier, that should help a lot. Thanks!

07-28-2005, 06:29 PM	#4
Aragorn1 Symbol of Cyric Join Date: July 3, 2001 Location: Cornwall England Age: 36 Posts: 1,197	Hmm, I'm pretty sure I did that on my last run through as a Paladin, i'll check the journal from the save to make sure. ***VERY IMPORTANT EDIT***: I did, BUT you don't get the extra experience aparantly that you would have got had you waited. [ 07-28-2005, 06:44 PM: Message edited by: Aragorn1 ]

07-29-2005, 08:15 AM	#8
shamrock_uk Dracolich Join Date: January 24, 2004 Location: UK Age: 41 Posts: 3,092	I just wasted him with a party around level 10 - in the end it was done by magic. Cast two lower resistances (all I had memorised) and then just hit him with the usual damage spells. Flame arrow, magic missile etc. Mazzy and Saerileth both seemed to do good jobs of holding him back from my casters but they were pretty ineffective at actually hitting him. Providing you have two or three mages, that's probably the way to go. [ 07-29-2005, 08:17 AM: Message edited by: shamrock_uk ]

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